Best Dressed Artists Of 2022

As the year comes to a close, there’s plenty to reflect back on – both good and bad. While some are presently looking back on 2022’s biggest pop culture events and breakups, we’ve decided to keep things light by celebrating the best-dressed stars whose outfits have caught our attention frequently over the last 12 months.

Following in the footsteps of 2021, our latest roundup features noteworthy looks from both men and women. However, this year, we’ve made things more fun by adding a category for couples, as well as honourable mentions who happen to fall outside of the “artist” label.

Kim Kardashian and Chicago West are seen on July 12, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by MEGA/GC Images)

From new parents flexing their maternity/paternity style to recently divorced socialites finding their footing in the fashion world, we’ve got a little bit of everything to celebrate.

Keep scrolling to see our favourite looks for yourself. Additionally, read our roundup of 2022’s hottest R&B albums here.

Couples

Unsurprisingly, there’s no shortage of powerhouse couples dominating both the music and fashion sectors of the culture. While all of the artists on this list have undeniably great style on their own account, when they step out with their other half, heads can’t help but turn their way.

Rihanna & A$AP Rocky
Rihanna and A$AP Rocky seen out for dinner in SoHo on January 22, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Robert Kamau/GC Images)

It’s long been known that Rih and A$AP Rocky are two of the most stylish celebrities in their own right. Put them together, though, and even the phrase “Fashion Killa” doesn’t begin to describe the impact they’ve had on the culture.

For her part, the Bad Gal spent the first half of 2022 showcasing her maternity style. While some women choose the comfort of oversized clothing during such a vulnerable time, she instead opted to wear revealing pieces and heels regularly, proving just how deep her confidence truly runs.

As he stepped into his role as a first-time father, Rocky also made plenty of waves with his unique style. From praising skirts on men as being “punk” to dishing out hundreds of thousands on a custom GRIM belt for himself, the New Yorker has never been one to hold back when it comes to expressing himself.

Asap Rocky and Rihanna are seen at the Gucci show during Milan Fashion Week Fall/Winter 2022/23 on February 25, 2022 in Milan, Italy. (Photo by Victor Boyko/Getty Images for Gucci)
Barbadian singer Rihanna (L) and US rapper A$AP Rocky arrive for the world premiere of Marvel Studios’ “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, California, on October 26, 2022. (Photo by VALERIE MACON / AFP) (Photo by VALERIE MACON/AFP via Getty Images)
Cardi B & Offset
Offset and Cardi B attend Cardi B Hosts Fashion Night Out on September 17, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Shareif Ziyadat/Getty Images)

Cardi B didn’t serve up her highly anticipated sophomore album in 2022. However, she didn’t serve several noteworthy looks, from her sultry Marge Simpson Halloween costume (which actually landed her in some trouble) to landing on the cover of Vogue Singapore.

Through it all, the mother of two has had her husband, Offset, alongside her. Though he was hit with a serious personal tragedy with the murder of his cousin, Takeoff, last month, he’s still put a brave face on and managed to look as put together as ever through it all.

Fingers crossed we get more music – perhaps even a collab – and even more bold outfits from them in the new year.

Offset and Cardi B arrive at E11EVEN Miami on December 1, 2022 in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Alexander Tamargo/Getty Images for E11EVEN)
Cardi B and Offset during Offset Hosts Wonderland on May 11, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Johnny Nunez/WireImage)
Beyoncé & Jay-Z

2022 was an undeniably big year for Beyoncé in particular. The mother of three’s highly anticipated RENAISSANCE album arrived in the summer, and to this day, remains stuck in the heads of countless fans. As expected, the Lemonade hitmaker’s press run for the project was immaculately planned, consisting of glamorous gowns and gorgeous accessories.

In several of her celebratory Instagram posts, Queen B posed with her partner, Jay-Z. Interestingly, some of their couple photos were even snapped in front of an elevator similar to the one Hov and his wife’s sister previously fought in after the 2014 Met Gala.

Though the rapper has been more focused on his business endeavours than his music career as of late, his looks have still been as dapper as ever. Check out a few of our favourites in the carousels below.

Jhené Aiko & Big Sean

Rihanna’s maternity style was certainly the talk of the town, but she wasn’t the only pregnant starlet to put her bump on full display. Recently, Jhené Aiko and Big Sean welcomed their first child together, and their couple outfits undeniably gave Rocky and his girl a run for their money.

For the most part, the “Sativa” songstress personified the ethereal energy of a glowing angel. Many of her looks were complete with elaborate headpieces, and not unlike Rih, she wasn’t afraid to show some skin.

Sean Don has been eagerly expressing his excitement about being a first-time dad on social media. Now that baby Noah has finally arrived, the rapper continues to share his enthusiasm with the world, and he certainly isn’t letting his new job change the way that he dresses.

Halle Bailey & DDG
Actress/singer Halle Bailey and DDG arrive to attend the Roger Vivier Press day at Fondation Cino et Simone del Duca on September 29, 2022 in Paris, France. (Photo by Marc Piasecki/Getty Images For Roger Vivier)

Most of the couples on this list have been together for some time now, and all of them share at least one child. However, we would be remiss not to shout out a newer, younger couple who have been showing out on red carpets together as well.

The Little Mermaid actress Halle Bailey and her boo DDG made their official red-carpet debut at the 2022 BET Awards in June. They wore coordinated all-black outfits, with the R&B star showing off her figure in a plunging neck clown complete with flirty hip cutouts.

Since then, we’ve also seen them together in Paris for fashion week, and, most recently, at the Avatar 2: The Way Of Water premiere earlier this month.

DDG and Halle Bailey attend the 2022 BET Awards at Microsoft Theater on June 26, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Rodin Eckenroth/FilmMagic)
Halle Bailey and DDG attend 20th Century Studio’s “Avatar 2: The Way of Water” U.S. Premiere at Dolby Theatre on December 12, 2022 in Hollywood, California. (Photo by Axelle/Bauer-Griffin/FilmMagic)

Guys

After being cooped up in the house for several years, celebrities of both genders are more than relieved to be back on the red carpet showing off their designer duds again. Several men, in particular, made a bold impression this year, whether with their unique style, fly performance fits, or simply the consistency with which they delivered their impressive looks.

Travis Scott
Travis Scott and Kylie Jenner are seen on October 13, 2022 in Los Angeles, California (Photo by MEGA/GC Images)

The end of 2021 was particularly tough for Travis Scott, with some speculating that he wouldn’t be able to make a comeback after the tumultuous disaster that was Astroworld Festival.

He’s since managed to prove any doubters wrong, though, and has poised himself to make an impressive musical return in the new year. Aside from his projects like Rodeo and Days Before Rodeo, the father of two is well known for having a keen eye for fashion – even if it’s previously been said that he jacked A$AP Rocky’s style.

When stepping out on his own he manages to command attention from all angles, and when he and baby mama Kylie Jenner hit the town, they know just how to compliment each other’s outfit of the night with their own. As he prepares to usher in the Utopia era, it’s likely we’ll only see more of Scott’s signature style in 2023.

Travis Scott attends Audemars Piguet 2022 Art Basel Event with Zack Bia on December 01, 2022 in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Dave Kotinsky/Getty Images for Audemars Piguet)
Drake
Drake attends “Lil Baby & Friends Birthday Celebration Concert” at State Farm Arena on December 9, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Prince Williams/Wireimage)

Drake is used to being in the public eye – he has been one of the world’s most popular rappers for several years now, after all – but after dropping two major albums in the past six months, he’s been making headlines like never before.

As he enters his mid-30s the Canadian seems to be moving with increasing confidence. He’s never one to shy away from trying new hairstyles that often inspire many imitators (remember the impact of his Certified Lover Boy cut?), and whether he’s celebrating at a birthday party or sitting courtside with his son, Adonis, Drizzy always knows how to look the part.

What makes the Scorpion rapper’s style so distinct is usually his bold accessories. Most recently, he tapped celebrity jeweller Alex Moss to make him a chain from 42 engagement diamonds, for “all the times he almost proposed.”

Drake looks on at the end of the game between the Toronto Raptors and the Chicago Bull following their basketball game at the Scotiabank Arena on November 6, 2022 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo by Mark Blinch/Getty Images)
Machine Gun Kelly
Machine Gun Kelly arrives at E11EVEN Miami during Miami Art Week on December 4, 2022 in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Alexander Tamargo/Getty Images for E11EVEN)

His red carpet looks may not be your personal cup of tea, but you have to give Machine Gun Kelly props for always pushing boundaries in fashion. Since connecting with his fiancée, Megan Fox, the recording artist’s look has only elevated, with some of his most impressive fashion moments arriving in the last 12 months.

The Dirt actor and his future wife have been seen at events like the Casamigos Halloween party, where they channelled Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson, as well as the premiere of Colson Baker’s Life In Pink documentary. For the latter, they perfectly emulated their personalities, seemingly dressing in alternative Barbie-core.

Additionally, MGK made his long-awaited return to the rap game this year on EST Gee’s I Never Felt Nun album. Listeners were highly impressed by the 32-year-old’s work, and clearly, his collaborator was too as he gifted the Houston native with a custom chain to celebrate their success.

Megan Fox and Colson Baker “Machine Gun Kelly” attend “Machine Gun Kelly’s Life In Pink” premiere on June 27, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Jamie McCarthy/Getty Images)
Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly attend the 2022 Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 15, 2022 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images)
Kodak Black
Kodak Black attends the 2022 American Music Awards at Microsoft Theater on November 20, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images)

One thing about Kodak Black? He’s always going to kill it on the red carpet. This year, specifically, the Florida-born lyricist made his mark at the American Music Awards in a dashing plum-coloured suit. He paired the look with plenty of large chains and rings, as well as a pair of sleek black shoes.

The 2022 BET Awards is another event for which the 25-year-old went all out. Not only did he catch our attention with his bright green corduroy suit outside, but also put on an incredible performance that saw him debut more drip.

Even when he’s not on stage entertaining an audience, Yak manages to impress his fans with his fashion – and his antics. Just a few months ago, the “Silent Hill” collaborator posted a fit check, in which he aptly pointed out the ankle monitor on his leg.

Kodak Black attends the 2022 BET Hip Hop Awards at Cobb Energy Performing Arts Center on September 30, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Aaron J. Thornton/WireImage)
Kodak Black attends 42 D’or on October 29, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Johnny Nunez/WireImage)
Diddy
Sean “Diddy” Combs attends the 2022 BET Awards at Microsoft Theater on June 26, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Rodin Eckenroth/FilmMagic)

Diddy has had one hell of a year, and from the sounds of things, he’s only planning to achieve more success come January. The 53-year-old has had a number of huge moments as of late, from welcoming a new baby girl into his family to expertly cosplaying as the Joker on Halloween.

Even when he’s working, Sean Combs likes to do it in style. Lucky for him, his laborious efforts often take place at glamorous award shows, on TV sets, or at parties. When he hosted the Billboard Music Awards this summer, the father of seven got to show off a wardrobe’s worth of looks, all of which flattered him immensely.

Elsewhere, he’s often seen out with City Girl Yung Miami. The two aren’t officially an item, but they are great friends who love the look and taste of luxury.

Sean Combs and Yung Miami attend 2nd Annual The Black Ball Quality Control’s CEO Pierre “Pee” Thomas Birthday Celebration at Fox Theater on June 1, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia.(Photo by Prince Williams/Wireimage)

Gals

Of course, the women of the music industry had an abundance of fantastic fashion moments as well. From R&B darlings and rap divas to Australian-born blonde bombshells, this list is sure to give you all the inspiration you need to invest in your new dream wardrobe.

Iggy Azalea

She may have been ready to walk away from her music career last year, but 2022 saw Iggy Azalea triumphantly return to the stage and spotlight. The mother of one joined Pitbull on his North American tour, during which she flaunted her famous figure in some seriously iconic outfits.

When she wasn’t performing, the Australian could be found making major money moves elsewhere. Among her biggest wins recently is selling her portion of her music catalogue for an astounding eight figures. Additionally, she announced an album coming in 2023 that was expected to be executive produced by Tory Lanez, though that will likely change due to his recent incarceration.

Of the many female rappers out there, Azalea’s Instagram game is undeniably one of the best. Whether she’s sweating the summer away in sultry swimwear or supporting the Raiders in a letterman jacket, the 32-year-old is an expert at reflecting her attitude through her style.

Iggy Azalea performs during Pitbull’s “Can’t Stop Us Now” summer tour at Budweiser Stage on August 13, 2022 in Toronto, Ontario. (Photo by Robert Okine/Getty Images)
Coi Leray
Coi Leray walks the runway at The Blonds fashion show during September 2022 New York Fashion Week: The Shows at Gallery at Spring Studios on September 14, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images for NYFW: The Shows)

In recent years, hip-hop has notoriously shown love to women with curves, or even fake bodies, while often leaving petite women in the dust. Thankfully, artists like Coi Leray are reminding the world that it’s not the time to sleep on slim girls.

Aside from sharing her debut Trendsetter album in the earlier half of 2022, the “Wasted” singer has also been seen at numerous fashion shows, sitting in the front row with stylish friends like La La Anthony and Saucy Santana.

The Boston native has never been one to shy away from posting a thirst trap, reminding her followers that curves aren’t always necessary to love the skin you’re in. Elsewhere, she was one of many famous faces who helped Kanye West out by modelling his YZY SHDZ.

Rapper Coi Leray speaks onstage during the 2022 Revolt Summit at 787 Windsor on September 24, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Paras Griffin/Getty Images)
Megan Thee Stallion
Megan Thee Stallion attends The 2022 Met Gala Celebrating “In America: An Anthology of Fashion” at The Metropolitan Museum of Art on May 2, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Gotham/Getty Images)

After a stressful few months, Megan Thee Stallion is likely feeling on top of the world now following Tory Lanez’s guilty verdict. Even with the trial looming in December all year long, the Houston native put on a brilliant show for every audience that came to see her this year.

Throughout the summer, Tina Snow let her nerd flag fly as she channelled Sailor Moon while taking the stage in Japan for the first time. Later, we saw her step out in a skimpy milkmaid costume while in Germany that had her man Pardison Fontaine publicly lusting over her.

Thee Stallion also seriously upped her Met Gala game this year, adorning herself in a gorgeous gold look designed by Jeremy Scott for Moschino. Other events that found her putting her most elegant foot forward include the Starz P-Valley premiere and the 64th annual Grammy awards.

Megan Thee Stallion attends the 64th Annual GRAMMY Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on April 03, 2022 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images for The Recording Academy)
Yung Miami
JT and Yung Miami of the City Girls attend 2nd Annual The Black Ball Quality Control’s CEO Pierre “Pee” Thomas Birthday Celebration at Fox Theater on June 1, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia.(Photo by Prince Williams/Wireimage)

Yung Miami spent a large chunk of time this year shutting down haters criticizing her situationship with Diddy. Luckily for her, she managed to always look good doing it, whether turning up at a friend’s birthday party or turning up on stage with her partner in rhyme, JT.

Fans of the City Girl already know that she’s been making major moves while building her brand as of late. Not only did she launch her Caresha Please podcast, interviewing guests like G Herbo and Kevin Gates, but she also coined plenty of popular phrases, such as “real bad,” which she subsequently had spelt out on a thong she later flaunted on social media.

Even while mourning the late Takeoff at a star-studded ceremony in Atlanta, Miami wanted to make sure she looked her best. While stunting in a sultry black leather outfit, some were quick to criticize the Florida native for donning such attire to a sombre event. As always, though, she came in with a clap back for any trolls wasting their time with hate.

Yung Miami attends Casamigos at Tao Desert Daze presented by PrettyLittleThing at Cavallo Ranch on April 16, 2022 in Thermal, California. (Photo by Jerritt Clark/Getty Images for Casamigos Tequila)
Doja Cat
Doja Cat attends the A.W.A.K.E Mode Womenswear Spring/Summer 2023 show as part of Paris Fashion Week on October 04, 2022 in Paris, France. (Photo by Julien Hekimian/Getty Images)

The beauty of Doja Cat has always been how authentically herself she is, even after rising to fame. This year, in particular, the California native has been embracing out-of-the-box style and trying out completely unique new looks.

Aside from making waves over in Europe with her eccentric fashion week makeup for various runway shows, the Planet Her hitmaker has been keeping her Instagram followers entertained with various interesting eyebrow looks. Additionally, her shaved head earned her some backlash – and she even admitted to not feeling great about it at first – but she’s since grown used to the short style.

It was a relatively quiet year for Doja in terms of new music, though she has spent the last 12 months chiefly setting the tone for what audiences can expect from her upcoming era.

Doja Cat is seen during Paris Fashion Week – Womenswear Spring/Summer 2023 – Day Five on September 30, 2022 in Paris, France. (Photo by Jacopo Raule/GC Images)
Doja Cat attends the 2022 Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 15, 2022 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Axelle/Bauer-Griffin/FilmMagic)
Chloe Bailey
Chloe Bailey attends the 2022 Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 15, 2022 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Axelle/Bauer-Griffin/FilmMagic)

Chloe Bailey is yet another artist who failed to deliver a full-length project this year, but still managed to seriously impress in other ways. The Atlanta native’s Instagram feed is often filled with sultry photoshoot pictures – most recently she shared some festive Christmas photos, though other uploads from the past few months see her posing in looks from Jean Paul Gaultier and other renowned designers.

Outside of the social media world, the R&B vocalist also took to several stages to perform and entertain, crooning out hits like “Treat Me” and “Surprise,” both of which dropped earlier this year. Like so many other contenders on our list, her performance looks were nothing short of sexy, only further ensuring that all eyes stayed on her.

Walking a red carpet by yourself can be nerve-wracking. Luckily, Bailey had the company of her little sister, Halle, at many events this year. As they continue to step into womanhood, the duo’s public displays only become more glamorous.

Chloe Bailey Halle Bailey attend the 2022 Nickelodeon Kid’s Choice Awards at Barker Hangar on April 09, 2022 in Santa Monica, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Nickelodeon)
Latto
Latto attends Latto “Christmas In Clayco” at Carl Rhodenizer Recreation Center on December 18, 2022 in Jonesboro, Georgia.(Photo by Prince Williams/Wireimage)

Another starlet we couldn’t help but give credit to while closing out 2022 is Latto. The 777 artist always comes prepared for the occasion. Whether she’s celebrating Christmas in Clayco in a flirtatious red and white Santa suit or turning up at 21 Savage’s Freaknik-themed birthday party, you can guarantee that she got the memo.

For her own birthday this year, the reality star went with an out-of-the-box look to celebrate. A professional makeup artist donned the entirety of her curvaceous figure in hot pink paint, leaving her resembling what can only be described as an “alien superstar.”

Another impressive thing about Latto is her ability to pull off virtually any style. From short blonde bobs to bright orange locks, there’s no hair colour that doesn’t look good on her. The same goes for makeup looks and outfits as well, as you’ll see from scrolling through her social media feeds.

Latto attends VOGUE World: New York on September 12, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Sean Zanni/Getty Images for Vogue)

Honourable Mentions

Seeing as the names of several socialites, models, and Instagram baddies frequently appear on our page, we would be remiss not to dedicate a category to them too. Those who fall under the “honourable mentions” section are well known within the culture (and may have even dated a rapper themselves in the past), but don’t make music themselves. Instead, they use their appearance, outfits, and influence to leave a mark on the world.

Lori Harvey
Lori Harvey arrives to Michael Kors fashion show at Highline Stages on September 14, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by James Devaney/GC Images)

Lori Harvey broke the internet in the first half of 2022 after her split from Michael B. Jordan was revealed. Prior to that, the two made their red carpet debut at the Vanity Fair Oscars party, where the internet happily praised them as “couple goals.”

Since then, the Memphis native has been enjoying the single life, attending parties and events, posing for the camera, and of course, plenty of travelling and pilates. Her wardrobe for all of this has been undeniably immaculate, and this year in particular she’s been bolder than ever before with her fashion choices.

Though she spoke candidly about it being her time to shine as an individual during a recent Essence interview, Harvey has been making waves in the news this month after sparking romance rumours with Snowfall actor Damson Idris. In 2023, it’s entirely possible we could see the two in public together sporting some inspiring outfits.

Lori Harvey is seen in Battery Park City on September 14, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by THE HAPA BLONDE/GC Images)
Julia Fox
Julia Fox is seen on September 09, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Rachpoot/Bauer-Griffin/GC Images)

She started the year as Kanye West’s muse, and while that didn’t last, she’s still ending it as TikTok’s dream girl. Since rising to fame after appearing in Uncut Gems a few years ago, Julia Fox’s career continues to soar to new heights. While not everyone is a fan of her work, or her, she continues to boldly put her best foot forward and question societal norms.

Her and Ye’s whirlwind romance was short-lived, but he still bought her (and her friends) baby Birkin bags to celebrate her birthday. The gift was undeniably astounding, but seeing as the Italian-born creative has plenty of fashion connections of her own, she doesn’t need the rapper to shower her with luxury goods.

This year’s Milan Fashion Week in particular saw some great work from Fox, with the model attending various runway shows. Additionally, paparazzi snapped photos of her at NYFW, where her outfits were equally as polarizing.

Julia Fox attends the Diesel Fashion Show on September 21, 2022 in Milan, Italy. (Photo by Vittorio Zunino Celotto/Getty Images for Diesel)
Kim Kardashian

Our final shoutout for their fashion endeavours this year goes to Kim Kardashian, who managed to look good on a regular basis, even throughout her chaotic divorce from Kanye West. Among her many public appearances this year, the family’s Dolce & Gabanna-styled trip to Italy for Kourtney and Travis Barker’s wedding remains a favourite.

Just a few months later, her SKIMS brand teamed up with the controversial fashion house, making its debut during Milan Fashion Week. She’s run several successful campaigns of her own this year, and even donned Marilyn Monroe’s iconic dress for the Met Gala.

While some are speculating that the Kardashian reign is coming to an end, Kim remains as poised as ever on her throne, ready to drop an Instagram thirst trap on her haters at any given moment.

Honoree Kim Kardashian attends the 2022 Baby2Baby Gala presented by Paul Mitchell at Pacific Design Center on November 12, 2022 in West Hollywood, California. (Photo by Stefanie Keenan/Getty Images for Baby2Baby)
Kim Kardashian attends the CFDA Fashion Awards at Casa Cipriani on November 07, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)

Syleena Johnson Talks New Christmas Movie Soundtracks, Loving FOX Soul, & Fighting For Your Dreams

Not many artists can reach the success of Syleena Johnson. The four-time Grammy-nominated artist has reached all corners of the industry—from performing to producer to songwriting to reality television to being one of the hosts of FOX Soul’s Cocktails with Queens. In Hip Hop, Johnson is widely known as the voice who helped carry Kanye West’s classic “All Falls Down.” As the story goes, she came in the 25th hour to help West and he famously says on the track: “Now, Syleena, you just like a safe belt, you saved my life.” The pair even reunited for Donda.

During this holiday season, Johnson continues to keep herself busy. Bungalow Films and Music produced three holiday films now streaming on Hulu, and they called on Johnson and her collaborators to create accompanying albums. The soundtracks for All I Want For Christmas, Santa Games, and My Christmas Financé host a mix of recognizable artists and a few new faces. It was purposefully curated this way, says Johnson, to hear voices that we’ve grown to treasure while also making room for the new generation.

NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE – MAY 05: In this image released on June 5, 2021, Syleena Johnson performs during Black Music Honors 2021 at City Winery Nashville on May 5, 2021 in Nashville, Tennessee. The 2021 Black Music Honors airs in national syndication from June 5 through July 4 and on Bounce TV on Saturday, June 19. (Photo by Jason Kempin/Getty Images)
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“I incorporated myself and Toxic, we just thought of the different people that we love and that we have great relationships with,” Johnson told us for our Christmas interview. “And so, we were able to incorporate some of our favorite artists on this album to help push the album so that the new artists can be heard as well. It’s like a pleasant surprise to be able to hear the ones you love and be like, ‘Oh, who is this? I like her.’ And then you’ll go look up the rest of her stuff.”

Read more from our interview with to see what Johnson said about these three movie soundtracks, advice she has for rising artists, feeling at home with the culture on Fox Soul, and why she’s spent her career as an extroverted introvert.

This interview has been slightly edited for clarity.

HNHH: Thank you so much for taking the time today! So, you’re not only helping to produce these records, but you, of course, are featured on them as well. Tell us all about the albums and collaborating with such a combination of talent. And I saw you reconnected with Keke Wyatt.

Well, they are Santa Games, All I Want for Christmas, and My Christmas Fiancé.  And they’re all in alignment with movies. They’re movie soundtracks, those movies are on Hulu and Tubi. So, we were called to produce this album, myself, Toxic Productions, and Dr. Salicia Productions. Dr. Salicia is my manager and Toxic Productions is my producer. So, that’s easy.

But we were called as a team to produce these records for all three soundtracks and our original intention was to just, find as many new artists and artists that are budding and out here working, to fill the project with new artists. But, we kinda knew that if we just do that, then it may fall by the wayside. People may not recognize it.

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So, I incorporated myself and Toxic, we just thought of the different people that we love and that we have great relationships with. And so, we were able to incorporate some of our favorite artists on this album to help push the album so that the new artists can be heard, as well. It’s like a pleasant surprise to be able to hear the ones you love and be like, ‘Oh, who is this? I like her.’ And then you’ll go look up the rest of her stuff.

And then, me and Keke have been friends since I don’t know. Fifteen? Twenty years? We’ve been friends for a very long time. It’s really simple for me to call her up and be like, “Hey girl.” I have a studio in my house, so it was just like, girl, come over here and come get on this Christmas song. If she’s available, which is tough because she’s very busy all the time. But she was available and she came up. We made a whole day of it, drinking wine and singing in the studio.

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Yeah, I saw Tweet and Kenny Lattimore in there! And outside of music, you’ve also been holding things down on Fox Soul on Cocktails with Queens. How has that been for you and how do you see yourself evolving in that talk show space?

Well, in 2023, FOX Soul has so much in store. FOX Soul is growing, literally daily, it’s just growing quickly. I’m really, really happy to be part of the FOX Soul family, excellent network, excellent company. I have a great time working with the producers, the CEO is amazing. So, I’m in a great space in regard to FOX Soul. Plus, it’s African American so I get to be in my element. You know, it’s one thing to work out here in the industry, but it is such as blessing to be able to work with your culture, you know what I’m saying? Because they kind of get you straight away. And I’m not saying that other cultures do not. But it is a little easier to work in an environment with your culture and about your culture because you’re well-versed in it.

It’s easy for me to sit on a platform that is for my culture and speak about my culture because I like it every single day. My co-hosts are fantastic. I couldn’t ask for a better panel. They’re established, beautiful, smart, talented, passionate women. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we don’t, but we do well with it. We know how to move on to the next thing and go back to our business. That’s the maturity that’s on the show as well.

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And I love being a talk show host because I’m a songwriter. And really what we do is what you are as a songwriter, you’re just expressing yourself through song, as opposed to on a platform like this. Really, this is just another extension. Sister Circle was my first talk show. I came into FOX Soul so very well prepared. And it’s much easier than Sister Circle because I just set up—which is in front of a Christmas tree, girl—and just do my thing. Just talk.

I love this platform, I hope it never goes away. I hope it’s the new way of the world. I do want to go in the studio at some point, but I love this platform because it’s flexible. It’s impactful. So, I hope one day I’ll be able to get my own show, my own platform speaking. It will be a little different from the platform that I’m on now. But I hope to be able to merge into something like that, or evolve into something like that.

You were speaking earlier about purposefully seeking out new talent for these Christmas albums. As a veteran, what’s a nugget of advice you have for those aspiring to reach your level of success?

That eventually, everything that you work for, you will receive. And that is the truth. Sometimes when you work for a specific thing, you’ll get something else equivalent, but it might not be what you thought you would be getting. But you’ll still be pleasantly surprised.

My advice is to continuously and relentlessly fight for your dreams. Fight for the things that you believe in. And when you get knocked down, it’s okay. Just get back up and keep going. You have your whole life to live—but you don’t have your whole life to live. You see what I’m saying? So, you have to continuously, relentlessly fight for your vision. And eventually, it will come to fruition.

…That’s good. I’ll take that myself, to myself [laughs].

NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE – JUNE 17: Syleena Johnson performs onstage for The National Museum of African American Music Celebration of Legends Benefit Concert at Ryman Auditorium on June 17, 2021 in Nashville, Tennessee. (Photo by Jason Kempin/Getty Images for NMAAM)
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I’ll take some of that, too! Alright, this is my last question. It’s something I ask everyone. What is something about yourself that doesn’t always translate because of the veil of celebrity? Your fans think they have a perception of you, your team, even people you know personally—but those are perceptions based on whatever understanding they have of you. What is something at the heart of Syleena Johnson that people don’t see because of their own expectations of who they think you are?

That’s a great question. I don’t think I’ve ever been asked that question in my entire life. I really don’t. Um, I would say that I’m an introvert. People don’t know that about me. I’m an extroverted introvert. But more so an introvert. I will prefer to be in seclusion. I will prefer to be in my home with my family 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Seriously!

I get to the point anymore where I struggle with anxiety and being around people. And this has been something that has gone on in my career that started mid to now in my career. Because in the beginning—no, let me take that back, I’ve always been that way. No, I just thought about it. I’ve always hated people [laughs]. Yes, I struggle with large crowds, big environments. I am an extroverted introvert.

When I tell you I completely understand…girl! [Laughs]

Yes! And when I say extroverted, meaning, in this space with you, I can be extroverted. When it’s time to be on stage, I can be an extrovert. When it’s time to perform or speak or be in an environment with people that I’m paid for, or maybe not paid for. I can be around people. But it’s not my preference. And it can’t last for a long period of time or I will get anxiety.

Well, I truly appreciate your time and again, thank you for speaking with us. Have a wonderful holiday season with your loved ones!

Thank you! You as well.

Stream the soundtracks to All I Want For Christmas, Santa Games, and My Christmas Financé above and check out the tracklists below.

SANTA GAMES 

  1. “Go Tell It On The Mountain” – Rafael “Rae” Evans, Kevian “KB” Bateman, Syleena Johnson 
  2. “Love Fall Down” – Carl Thomas 
  3. “Joy To The World” – Syleena Johnson, Keke Wyatt 
  4. “O Holy Night” – Leela James 
  5. “Oh Christmas Tree” – Danny Boy
  6. “Snow White Christmas” – Syleena Johnson 
  7. “What Child Is THis” – Tweet 
  8. “Deck The Halls” – Nola Ade 
  9. “My List”- D.Lylez 
  10. “Merry Gentlemen” – Syleena Johnson 

MY CHRISTMAS FINANCÉ

  1. “My First Noel”- Kjay 
  2. “Sweet December” – Reuben McCray 
  3. “Christmas All Year” – Aricka J 
  4. “Perfect Gift” – SOS
  5. “Hardly Wait”- D.Lylez, Shantina Lowe
  6. “Angels Heard On High” – Taylor
  7. “Heard The Bells” – Marian 
  8. “Without You” – Tommie B 

ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS 

  1. “Gift For You”- Church Boy Scotty 
  2. “Honor” – Rhymefest Ft. Toxic 
  3. “Nothing Like Christmas” – Joshua Gunn Ft. D.Lylez
  4. “Silent Night” – Syleena Johnson, Kenny Lattimore, Keke Wyatt 
  5. “Greatest Gift” – Donal Alford 
  6. “What’s In The Bag” – Aricka J 

Rome Flynn Talks “Fantasy Football,” R&B Pursuits, & Rising Above Misconceptions

For over a decade, Rome Flynn has carefully carved out his place in the industry. With each step—and each new gig—his vision shifts ever so slightly as he walks a new path. Maybe you recognize Flynn from How to Get Away with Murder; Netflix’s Family Reunion, Raising Dion, or Dear White People; or his Emmy Award-winning role on the soap opera, The Bold and the Beautiful. His journey has brought him to Fantasy Football, Flynn’s most recent Paramount+, Nickelodeon feature that hosts a star-studded cast: Kelly Rowland, Marsai Martin, and Omari Hardwick also help round things out. It’s a role that helped Flynn check off a few career boxes, or so he told us in our extensive interview with him for our 12 Days of Christmas series.

It is common for creatives to hold several artistic interests, and for Flynn, it’s all about finding balance—and time. Aside from his successful career as an actor, Flynn is an R&B singer who has racked up millions of streams. However, you won’t see him on a label’s roster, at least not soon, as he has purposefully remained independent as he navigates his next steps. In conversing with him, the actor seems grounded and intentional in his moves, and we can expect to see and hear more from him as he stacks new projects and plans to release more music in the new year.

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA – NOVEMBER 17: Actor Rome Flynn arrives at the “Fantasy Football” Premiere & Event at Paramount Studios, Sherry Lansing Theatre on November 17, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Rich Polk/Getty Images for Paramount+)
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“It’s always on the horizon. When it comes to music, it’s such a different creative process for me,” Flynn told us. “And also a different creative responsibility for me, as in comparison to TV and film. Those things, again, I get a start date and end date, regardless if it’s a TV show or a movie. I know when I’m going to start something and when it’s going to be finished. At some point, I’ll know when it’s coming out. Music is a different beast. We deal in a space creatively with collaboration and when you deal in that sense, you’re dealing with other people’s time. It’s not necessarily just me.”

As we reconnected with Flynn, we speak to him about Fantasy Football, his music pursuits, why the holidays are more about giving than receiving when you’re an adult, and not being as vain as people think.

This interview has been slightly edited for clarity.

Thank you so much for catching up with us once again! I know Fantasy Football was recently released, congratulations on that. Tell us about working on the film with such a talented cast.

Uniquely with this movie, I got to play not only a football player but an NFL player. And not just an NFL player, but an elite NFL player in conjunction with EA Sports and Madden, and the NFL getting behind the film was a huge deal. So, it was just a lot of boxes that had been checked for me. And aside from this amazing cast, I wanted to do this for so many reasons. The people producing it, they produce amazing things with Genius Productions, which is [Marsai Martin] and her parents’ company. So, I wanted to definitely work with her. [SpringHill Productions] was another big thing for me because they do things that are really good. On top of that, it’s Nickelodeon, it’s Paramount+. It covers different bases for me.

Ultimately, working with this cast—you know, I signed on without knowing it would be [Omari Hardwick]. Then, when I found out it was him, it was another thing that I added to the list for me. And also, working with him in a capacity where he also isn’t as known as much for doing comedy. Same for me. It was a big thing for me to be a part of this, to be a protagonist and also be somewhat of a comic relief, which is not something I’ve done a lot in my past work. And yeah, it’s a great film. I think people are now starting to watch it and get behind it. I think it’ll have the same impact as cult favorites have when it comes to sports in conjunction with family and these sorts of elements that people tend to watch around this time of year.

Speaking of checking those boxes of things you wanted to do, and casting vision to do as we enter into 2023, what are some resolutions or goals you have? What do you see yourself moving into in the new year?

My thing with resolutions is, it’s sort of become a crutch for people to have this opportunity to say, “Well, I’ll start next year.” Or, “January 1st is when I’ll begin to do these things that I really want to do.” And I just say, why not now? We only have right now, that’s the only thing we have. At this moment, we don’t know what’s going on in the future. As we can see, we lost a whole year, two years, with Covid. It’s just one of those things where, if you feel that passion, you have to initiate that when you feel it. It comes and goes. Life happens! Life happens to you and ultimately, you might not be able to go do those things that you want to do when you really had the opportunity at that moment that you thought of it.

So, for me, I don’t really do a lot of resolutions as opposed to just being really specific about what I want for myself. Not necessarily just about the beginning of the year, but like, just overall, for the year. As you go further in your career and life, this goes for anybody that does anything that is in a creative space—whether it’s music, art, acting—you get more in the progression of what you do. Ultimately, what ends up happening is you become good at it. You become trusted at this thing that you do. You get more opportunities.

In the past, for me, it was just wanting those opportunities, and now I’m in a position where I get plenty of opportunities. Just trying to make the right—the one that I feel more passionate about is the one that I lean toward. Whether it’s music or acting. And so, that’s just kinda how I navigate deciding where I want to be next year.

Ultimately, I do have certain goals that I want to meet for next year. Really specific. And you kinda have to be that way. If you don’t set your intentions in a way where you ask to receive these things in the amount of time that you want them, precisely the way you want them, then I think it leaves the universe in a place to kinda fill in the blanks. If you allow that to happen, I mean, sh*t, anything can happen.

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For instance, I was saying I wanted to a film at the end of the year, but I wasn’t really specific about—not necessarily where I wanted it to take place, but I had just been saying to myself, that I wanted to do something and a bunch of things had come, but it wasn’t that thing. I think, had I been more specific about my intention on what kind of film, the kind of character, the sort of things you get really detailed about, it really starts to materialize in a real way once you do that.

So, for me, that’s kinda how I navigate what I’m trying to accomplish throughout the year. And just being patient and knowing that there’s always something greater. Even when things don’t work out. I’m always in a place of gratitude. Just understand that this is such a f*ckin’ luxury to do what you want to do for a living and to be paid for it and to be recognized for it. Granted, I’ve been doing this almost ten years. It seems to some people I’ve become like, this overnight success thing. But that’s just the way our attention spans are set up. We pay attention to what’s in front of us, but you know, thankfully, I’ve just been continuing to grow in my craft.

As far as specifically what I want to do next year, I really want to do more films. More indie films. Films that give me an opportunity to showcase another aspect of my craft that I just haven’t recently. I do a lot of television which is fun, but there’s a certain finality when it comes to film, where you get a beginning and end, and knowing that you have a place to go when it comes to film gives you an opportunity to map out how you want this character to be. There’s something amazing about that.

As opposed to working on a show where, man, first year is great, next year you’re like, “I’m doing what?” Now, you’re talking to the writers about how you ended up at this place. It’s an uphill battle. Whatever road you take. Ultimately, I want to do more films and transition. Less television and more films.

Many actors I’ve known speak about the growth a good indie film can give. And music? Where are you in that landscape? Is that something still on the horizon soon or farther off than you think?

It’s always on the horizon. When it comes to music, it’s such a different creative process for me. And also a different creative responsibility for me, as in comparison to TV and film. Those things, again, I get a start date and end date, regardless if it’s a TV show or a movie. I know when I’m going to start something and when it’s going to be finished. At some point, I’ll know when it’s coming out. Music is a different beast. We deal in a space creatively with collaboration and when you deal in that sense, you’re dealing with other people’s time. It’s not necessarily just me.

Yeah, I want to drop an EP, but there’s certain avenues you have to go down to get the music cleared, you know. To carve out the time that it needs for—if you’re a person like me, you’ve obligated a lot of your time to a different sector of art. To kind of pull myself away from that is a task that is a little more challenging for a person just doing music. And again, these are the sorts of things you call “champagne problems.” I’m in a position where I’m doing what I love but I love to do so many things.

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When you love to do so many things, what ends up happening is you lend yourself to these things. And then you’re at the mercy of how these things come and the outcome of these things. It’s sort of a double-edged sword, although it can be a very gratifying experience, on the flip side, it can be the total opposite of that. Not in the way where it’s depending on how people perceive what you’re doing, but more so the preparation and also the goals you have set for yourself in these respective fields if that makes sense.

So, if I plan for myself to be a certain type of actor, and do certain types of movies, once you set these intentions and goals, if they don’t get met, ultimately, it’s not about the public demand of how people feel about that. It’s about the pressure that you put on yourself. For me, I just have such high hopes for everything I do. Music is no different in that aspect. So, yes, to give you a short answer, for sure. I want to put an EP out next year. But ultimately, I’m also not in a space where I feel rushed. Music is one of those things that continue to change like, every year. Even R&B.

My approach of trying to feed the artistic part of me when it comes to music has a lot to do with releasing music but also a lot to do with just being connected to it, which is why I dropped covers all the time. I’m continually making music, not releasing a lot of music. I did just release a record a couple of months ago. And I want to release one more before the year is out. It’s just one of those things where you kind of have to just go and I’m used to being in a place where things are a little more structured. People just want to hear from you. They don’t care how or when. They just want to hear. I always want things to be the right way.

It’s one of those things that I fight against about releasing music. I want to put music out, but again, I have—when it comes to music, it comes from a place where it’s from me. I’ve put records out that other people have written before. I put my own record out, my biggest song is over 2.5 million streams, “Keep Me in Mind.” It’s a record that I wrote myself and that’s one of those things where you’re continually trying to just stay honest and genuine in what you have to say.

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That’s the place I’m coming from, so it’s not like I have a label. I’m independent because of the way I move. Because I’m so sporadic. I can’t really nail myself down to say, “Okay, here goes six months I’m going to dedicate to music.” ‘Cause ultimately, I have so many other passions that within that six months, I might be filming for three months and figuring out how to be a part of fashion for one of those months. So, it gets a little bit spread thin.

Hopefully, next year, what I intend to do is set certain goals for myself as it relates to music, the same that I did for acting, and being intentional and not negotiating with myself about those things I’m not here to negotiate with myself about what I plan to do. The fight against your own insecurities, which seems like a different person sometimes. So, it’s an uphill battle, but when you reach a certain place and do what you intend to do, regardless of the outcome of how people receive it, it means a lot.

That’s where I’m at with music. Next year, I want to drop an EP. Maybe seven, eight songs. I have an EP that’s finished right now. But again, I want to be in a space to drop music more and more and not have to be so meticulous about when and how much time I want to put behind it. Just want to give it to people and just let it live.

Ryan Destiny said something similar when we spoke with her for this series. Let’s switch gears to the holidays. Do you have any traditions that you celebrate with your loved ones during this time?

It’s interesting how the transition of the way holidays used to mean to me. And I think even when you get older, when your life becomes about what you do and chasing a dream, holidays start to become less about the opportunity to be around people and more about, “Damn, I’m gonna have to do certain things this season.”

When you become the person in your family that is successful, especially economically in Black households, I’m Cuban and Black but I grew up with just my mom. So, our traditions changed once I became an adult. As you can see, you can kind of look over the landscape of these families and there’s one, maybe two people who kind of lead a different path and become successful in a way. And ultimately, these people become who the family looks toward to do about everything. And I think you kind of just inherit that responsibility.

Before, it’s like, I can’t wait for Christmas. I used to be the person getting the presents, but it’s really fulfilling when you can follow through and be that person to get the stuff that your sibling wants or child wants. That’s the part of it I’m in now where my tradition is more so like, how can I make this special for other people? Because to me, I live a life that is so freeing every day, and so, not a lot of people have that opportunity.

BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORNIA – MAY 14: Rome Flynn attends The Prime Experience: “With Love” on May 14, 2022 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Amazon Studios)
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Even people in your own family don’t get to live in their own purpose or truth. A lot of them have to do jobs they don’t really like. They look forward to these times of the year. Obviously, being off from work, but, you know, it also can be stressful because people depend on them to make these days special. And for me—I had this conversation about birthdays, because my birthday just passed, and someone was asking what I was going to do for my birthday. I really didn’t have a plan. They were like, “Wow, you really have to celebrate these things.”

To me, my birthday could be today or it could be three months ago. I live my life every day like I’m celebrating it. ‘Cause I’m just so fortunate to be where I’m at. You know, on my birthday, I do reflect on where I’ve come from and where I want to be and take a moment to appreciate that. I think, to me, it becomes more about people celebrating you and you doing sh*t in order to celebrate yourself with them. As opposed to me, I like to kind of do my own thing. So, Christmas is one of those things where I’m looking forward to being with my family and doing what I can to make it special for my nephews and everybody else in my family.

I’m ready for the year to start, honestly. That’s where I’m at. I want to get back to doing what I love and I’m anxious about trying to see what the universe and God has for me next year. It’s just always a journey. It’s always a surprise. So, I’m looking forward to that.

It’s all about the journey. Speaking of, this is my final question. I’ve asked it to you twice before for our previous interviews [laughs]. What is something about you as a person that doesn’t always translate to the world because of the veil of celebrity? People think they know you based on what they can see or interpret, but that’s not truth. What is something about the heart of Rome Flynn that you wish people could see if the veil of celebrity was removed?

Yeah…I don’t remember what I said last time [laughs]. You know, I think, the thing about me that people probably misunderstand—I’m not as vain as people may think [laughs]. I think a lot of people think that I’ve got to this position because of how I look. That doesn’t bother me. I understand the ideology behind that because from the beginning of time, that has been the door opener for people.

But, the thing that I don’t care too much about is people not giving me, or even people like me, the opportunity to grow. To dip your hands into other things. Like I said, it’s kind of a double-edged sword. I’ve spent my career doing work that I’m proud of. So, when you transition to do other things, it feels a bit disingenuous to people ’cause they just don’t know you, when you do something different.

And so, I think my ability to play the game—when I say play the game, I always tell this to other actors, like, you gotta play the game, or the game plays you. The game is the industry. The game is all of the little sh*t you have to do in order to carve out your spot. When I say “the game,” I’m talking about People of Color because my white counterparts don’t. They get to live seamlessly through art. They transcend art. There are so many actors I know, they have bands, music, they release their own this, their own that. They don’t receive pushback, but when it comes to actors or artists that are predominately successful in a certain art field that are Black, it gives a certain pushback from people…which is a deeper conversation [laughs].

To me, a lot of people kind of misjudge my purpose, and I think they take the perception of my mysterious, laid-back energy to be as if I don’t care about certain things. I’m very passionate and I have a deep, burning desire for love. Deep burning for what I do. And that sh*t will reveal itself in time, as it does when you’re great at something and finding your way. Those paths will open up. So, I’m not too much worried about it but yeah, those are things that I’m very much interested in.

And I’m also interested in keeping a fine line between my private life and the life I allow people to see. I think there are two different ways to go about this business—business meaning like, celebrity status, whatever you want to say. There’s people who live their life through Instagram and social media and they need to be as transparent as possible for people to feel them.

For me, mine is more of a funneled perspective, a very small window of who I am, which is what works for me. Which is interesting, I remember when I saw in the beginning when Will Smith started to put out YouTube videos and social media videos, just really pulling the curtain back on who he was for people. Which was a huge thing for someone in his position because, as an actor, it’s not about who you are as a person. Actually, it’s less about that.

Some of the most successful actors don’t even have a social media imprint. ‘Cause we don’t want to know who you are. We want to forget who you are while we’re watching what you do. So, it’s a fine line. And music is the complete opposite, which is the interesting thing. Music is a place of genuineness, and transparency is what sells in music. People feel what you’re saying and believe what you’re talking about. It’s a fine line to walk to try to do both of those things, trying to bridge that gap when I try to put music out and say, “Hey, this is something I really want to say. This is who I am.” And trying to have people believe that and see that. It’s a battle, it’s an uphill thing. I love it, though. I’m just thankful I’m able to do these things. Honestly.

Paul Pierce Talks Ime Udoka, NBA Title Picks, & Jayson Tatum’s MVP Season

Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen all joined forces to create one of the best teams of the late 2000s and early 2010s. They ended up winning a title together in 2008, and made it back to the Finals in 2010. Most basketball fans know this already. However, it is important to remind all of you that Pierce was that guy. In fact, just like Garnett and Allen, Pierce is in the Hall of Fame, and deservingly so.

Following his retirement, Pierce became an analyst on TV where he became known for his controversial takes and obvious Celtics bias. He was certainly one of the most entertaining voices over at ESPN, although now, he can be heard giving his opinions alongside Garnett for Showtime. Additionally, Pierce has been working on a whole host of different businesses. He continues to make strides in the Cannabis industry, and Pierce is investing in enough companies to keep him busy. Overall, it’s been a productive retirement for the Celtics legend.

Paul Pierce, presented by Kevin Garnett speaks during the 2021 Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame ceremony at Symphony Hall on September 11, 2021 in Springfield, Massachusetts. (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)

Of course, the 2022-23 season started just a couple of months ago, and so far, it has been extremely interesting. Just like the rest of us, Pierce has been tapped in, and he has plenty to say on what he’s seen so far. With that said, we got to speak with The Truth for the latest edition of our “12 Days Of Christmas” series.

Throughout the interview, Pierce got to talk about the Celtics’ heartbreak from last year, the Ime Udoka situation, Jayson Tatum’s MVP campaign, and the difference between his era and the current one. You also may be surprised by who he thinks will be in the Finals this year.

This interview has been slightly edited for length and clarity


HNHH: Starting things off, when it comes to the season so far, what have your thoughts really been on the quality of basketball?

Paul Pierce: It’s been pretty good. You know, what is one thing that’s probably standing out the most to me? It’s kind of like the balance around the league. You know, you can’t just say one or two teams as contenders. I think you got about like six teams that can possibly win the championship this year. I really like some of the young teams who are thriving in the Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans. They’ve been a surprise early in the season. Obviously, we knew the Celtics will be good after they run last year. But when you look and you see Golden State, you know, they not in the top four right now. It just shows you how almost better everybody else has gotten. And I liked the balance across the league this year.

In terms of those young teams that are contending, you see Memphis and the Pelicans, you but they don’t have the same experience as a Golden State. So how do you think that will translate for them as the season goes on?

Man, you know, this is the way I look at it. Golden State was one of those young teams before too when they made the leap and they had to get over the hump of beating teams like San Antonio, who was in the middle of a dynasty or just finishing up. And so yeah, they don’t have experience which is why I believe that would give Golden State their advantage because of their experience, because they’ve been in deep playoff rounds, won championships, and these other teams are still learning how to win. So hopefully, they’ll use the regular season. For some of them who played in the playoffs last year, like Memphis and the Pelicans, they were in the playoffs last year. So they have a little experience. So hopefully, you know, they can gain confidence from that.

Former Boston Celtics player Paul Pierce celebrates on the sidelines after the Boston Celtics beat the Golden State Warriors 116-100 after Game Three of the 2022 NBA Finals at TD Garden on June 08, 2022 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Photo by Elsa/Getty Images)

As a former Celtic obviously, you’re watching the team a lot. What do you think of their strong start to the season so far?

Yeah, I really expected them to come on really good, especially with the additions. Malcolm Brogdon really gave them some depth. I expect them to come on and be strong. Did I know they were gonna be this strong? I don’t know. But you know, right now, they look like the team to beat in the NBA. So they got strong play from the all-stars. Jayson Tatum looking like an MVP. Jaylen Brown is also looking like an MVP candidate too. So, you know those guys are playing well. They tough to beat.

Everyone is talking about Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum as an elite duo right now. They were an elite duo last year. But now they’ve really sort of kicked it up a notch. Where would you rank them in terms of the duos across the NBA right now?

I think they’re the best duo right now. I mean, you look at what they’ve been able to accomplish this year, even last year, when you look at the numbers, the numbers don’t lie. Jayson has given them 30 points again, and Jaylen giving them like 27 a game. So I’ll put them right up there at the top. You know, this ain’t no disrespect to the other guys who have got really good players, because you can name guys like LeBron and Anthony Davis, Kyrie and Kevin Durant? Joel Embiid and James Harden, and a number of other young stars with their teams. Murray and Trae Young… but I think I do truly believe that the [Celtics] got the best duo.

Coming into this season for the Celtics, there was a bit of controversy. They have a new coach, although one that was already in the system. On your end, how difficult is it for a team to overcome that mental hurdle, especially at the start of a season? Or do you think it didn’t really matter since they already had that core together?

It’s easy for us to speculate because when it all happened… Ime Udoka got suspended. It was just like, what he was able to create? What kind of culture did he make and taking into the powers you thought would kind of like, put a dent in their armor? But it looked like they got the leadership from within. A lot of his coaches are still there. A lot of the same players. They just added a couple more players, but I just think the infrastructure was there. And you know, when you got leadership from within from the sidelines to the players, and it just carries over, no matter who’s head coach, and because these guys have been together, they’ve won together. And they know what it takes.

Paul Pierce attends the game between the North Carolina Tar Heels and the Kansas Jayhawks during the 2022 NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament National Championship at Caesars Superdome on April 04, 2022 in New Orleans, Louisiana. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)

Going back to last season, you know, how hard was it for you personally to watch that Celtics team lose the finals to the Warriors, just having a personal attachment to that franchise?

It’s always tough. Game four was the game where I think Curry…That was the turning game. They got a chance to go up 3-1 and I just knew once they lost that game, I was like, ‘this ain’t right.’ They gave this team confidence and a courageous plan. Like the best player in basketball. So it definitely hurt. And I know they feel it more than me, because I was out there [once]. They knew that this was an opportunity, because you know, it’s hard to make it to the NBA Finals, and let alone winning. You can’t take that for granted.

What do you think the next step will have to be for this in order to get over the hump and be able to win a championship this time around? Because players like Jayson Tatum had it rough in the Finals.

Well, now that they’ve been on a big stage, they know what to expect. They showed that they was a veteran team, they didn’t get rattled in big moments. They understood the moment. Boston is a young team that has that experience now. So now, when that moment comes, they’ll know how to react better, and they will be better prepared. Not only for what it takes, and so on. And that’s that’s huge. You know, it’s tough when you’re going through your first finals against a team who’s been there, done that, you know, the lights, the media attention, all that can get to some young players, and you know, now that they’ve experienced it, I think there’ll be more equipped for it this time around.

As someone who won a title in Boston who knows what it is like to be on a dynasty in the making, do you think this current iteration of the Celtics has dynasty potential?

Well, yeah, I mean, I think the pieces are in place when you got two young stars like they do. A number of other young guys. Everything is in place, because when you looked at dynasties over the years, where you look at it, like how the Lakers did it when Kobe and Shaq were young, the San Antonio Spurs, the Golden State Warriors, you know, they had the infrastructure built with the young stars. And so that’s definitely there. But you got to get that first one. And once you get that first one under the belt, who knows what might happen with this thing?

Paul Pierce
Paul Pierce, NBA legend speaks during the NRL Grand Final Media Opportunity at Martin Place on October 04, 2019 in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

In terms of the modern-day NBA, you look at a team like the Warriors and they’re probably the best example of a dynasty in the contemporary era. Especially with players always jumping around from team to team. What has been the key to the Warriors dynasty and what is the blueprint for future NBA dynasties, moving forward?

If they didn’t win that much, then you know, they wouldn’t be resigning these guys all the time and keeping them together. So you know, they gotta win. That’s what’s gotta happen for Boston to stay together and for these two guys to grow together. They gotta win. You know, they keep going to the finals and losing, you probably see a shakeout. Right now is their time. They are still young, they know they got two great players, and that’s what you can build around moving forward, but they got to win. And that’s how it always starts with culture. You know, Boston Celtics have created a great culture for winning and it starts at the top, also ownership, coaching staff all the way through.

I just want to know what your thoughts were on the Draymond Green and Jordan pool situation because that was such a viral moment for that team and it also had ramifications on their free agency situation.

Well, you know, it shouldn’t happen. I think Draymond knows that it shouldn’t happen. Him being the veteran leader… shouldn’t have ever come to that. And I know he realized he made a mistake. But you know, they can get past stuff like that. And I truly believe they’ve gotten past it. When you’re in a culture like the Golden State Warriors, what they have in their leadership and their locker room, they can sweep stuff like that under the rug, and move on.

Jumping into the difference between eras. You played in a more defense-heavy era. You guys always talk about how it was much tougher to play, it was more aggressive on the defensive end. Maybe expand on that and how the game has changed because now more than ever, we see guys putting up these insane 40-50-point games.

I mean, it’s not only the difference in eras. As time has gone on, they’ve adjusted certain defensive rules that really give an advantage to the offensive player. They don’t allow a lot of bumping, they don’t allow a lot of holding, you know, and so, they really try to preach freedom of movement. And so when you allow that, then the advantage, the advantage is always gonna go to the offensive player. And that’s why you’re seeing these guys putting up record-setting numbers, not just individually. Just the other day I saw Sacramento put up like 140-145 points. But it’s good for the guys. Guys are better shooters these days, from top to bottom, and that’s why we are seeing these types of numbers. 

Paul Pierce
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA – OCTOBER 01: UFC interim middleweight champion Israel Adesanya (L) and former NBA player Paul Pierce (R) pose for a photo during a media opportunity ahead of UFC 243 at Marvel Stadium on October 1, 2019 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Jeff Bottari/Zuffa LLC/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images)

In terms of just the young stars that are really dominating the game right now, who is somebody that you think could dominate in any era? Whether that be your era, the 90s, 80s, etc.

A lot of these guys. You got to figure that Kevin Durant, Kyrie, the Greek Freak. A lot of these guys will be dominant in any era… Jokic, The Joker. Steph Curry, of course.

Transitioning into your post-playing career, what are some projects that you’ve really been looking forward to doing or working on right now?

Right now, I’m doing the podcast with Kevin Garnett. We do our weekly podcast. I’ve just been doing a lot of investing in different companies. I’m working on putting together my documentary, as we speak, been doing stuff in the cannabis space, launching my brands in Boston, Phoenix, Ohio. And I’m gonna talk to somebody about starting my own long tequila brand. Why not?

What has it been like to sort of reconnect with Kevin Garnett and be able to do that show and just talk hoops all the time?

I mean, we just at the house chillin,’ man. We were really good friends. He lives five minutes from me, our kids go to school together. So it’s just natural for us to just kind of come together and talk hoops.

It’s still pretty early into the season but if you could pick an MVP right now, who would it be and why?

Right now, I gotta go with Jayson Tatum, man. I mean, because he’s leading the best team in basketball record-wise so far. He stepped his game up to another level. But it’s a long race, you know? But right now as of today, I gotta go with Jayson Tatum.

Just lastly, probably the Celtics are in there, but who do you think is probably destined for an NBA Finals appearance this year and who do you think is going to win, and in how many games?

Oh, I really see the Celtics are getting back in the finals. It’s gonna be tough because I believe it’s gonna be them and Milwaukee but I think the Celts are gonna win in seven games. I think it’s gonna be tough to find another team that can beat the Golden State Warriors in a seven-game series. It’s just hard for me to see them losing a seven-game series to anybody in the West, so I’m gonna go with them. I’m going with a rematch of last year.

Who do you got winning that series?

Celtics are winning in seven.

Awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time today. 

All right, no problem.

Hit-Boy Is The Producer Of The Year: On 21 Savage & Nas Collab, The Rise Of Loop Makers & Sampling “The Five Heartbeats” On “Legit”

Hit-Boy is undoubtedly the producer of 2022. After closing out 2021 with a third collaborative effort with Nas, Magic, he kept the momentum high throughout the year. He reunited with Beyoncé on “THIQUE” off of Renaissance – a strong display of his ability to craft hits. However, he also locked in with some formidable MCs. We saw him work alongside legends like Snoop Dogg and 2 Chainz. He also served as the executive producer behind The Game’s Drillmatic Heart Vs. Mind and, even more recently, Nas’s King’s Disease III

“My responsibility is to just bring quality every time,” Hit-Boy told HNHH. “Like, really get into like the sonic sphere of where they flourish at. I feel like that’s why me and Nas win… I just like getting a specific pocket that allows their shit to breathe.”

Hit-Boy’s emphasis on bringing quality helped usher in a new era of Nas’s career. However, on the cusp of releasing King’s Disease III, 21 Savage sparked a debate surrounding Nas’ “relevance” in the culture. Fans and critics initially considered the comments disrespectful, but it didn’t take long for them to put their differences aside for “One Mic One Gun,” produced by Hit-Boy.

Hit-Boy via Thirdeyeraz
Hit-Boy via Thirdeyeraz

“I definitely was just like… I’m just a little like – man, this is crazy that we are the only genre that’s so quick to downplay the people around us, the OGs, whatever,’” Hit-Boy recalled of his initial reaction to 21’s comments. “And it’s like, I feel like what me and Nas are even pushing for is a bigger agenda just with hip hop and artists being able to mature and still make the flyest shit that they could possibly make that don’t sound dated.”

For the latest installment of HNHH’s 12 Days Of Christmas, we caught up with Hit-Boy to discuss bridging the intergenerational gap in hip-hop, King’s Disease III, and the history behind “Legit.”

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity. 

“Grown-Ish” Star Ryan Destiny Talks “How Many,” Pursuing Music, & Not Always Having It All Together

She’s the multihyphenate “it” girl that has captivated viewers on shows like Star and Grown-ish, but Ryan Destiny’s career started in music. A global audience has already been introduced to the several talents Ryan has to offer, and often, it can be easy to box her in as an actress with a big voice. Yet, Ryan has been pursuing music since her pre-teen days, even being a part of a girl group and signing a record deal. Acting catapulted her into stardom, but R&B-Pop aspirations have lingered.

Recently, Ryan shared her new single “How Many,” and the accompanying visual was a stunning nod to R&B mavens of yesteryear. We’ve seen her star in music videos for artists like Doja Cat, Justin Bieber, and two for Big Sean. This time, she’s taking center stage as she delivers a track about a cheating partner who has taken her for granted.

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In our insightful 12 Days of Christmas interview with Ryan, she opens up about perfecting the balance in juggling multiple pursuits, especially as her acting career continues to elevate.

“Just being transparent, I feel like it’s something that still has to kind of go day by day with it,” Ryan exclusively told us. “And I’m very interested to see how my next year goes because it’s probably going to be the hardest to juggle, just out of the past few years, because of the pandemic, and everything that went on, I feel like it really slowed a lot of things down.”
“But now, since things are starting to pick back up, it’s just going to be really interesting to see how it all really can be done, because of the projects that I have coming out, with acting, and then more things being produced, and then music as well. And just kind of how those two live together.”

Read more from our interview with Ryan as she opens up about maintaining her privacy, only being in competition with herself, and being okay with not having it all together.

This interview has been slightly edited for clarity.

Jim Jones & Juelz Santana Talk Bringing Master P & BMF To Harlem, 21 Savage & Nas Collab & Curbing Gun Violence In Hip-Hop

It’s an annual holiday tradition at this point for Jim Jones to join HNHH for 12 Days Of Christmas. Days ahead of his latest holiday album, Jim Jones Presents 12 Days Of Christmas, Capo joined HNHH via Zoom for another in-depth conversation about the year but this time, Juelz Santana also joined us for the latest installment of our holiday series. Juelz Santana and Jim Jones are back on the road together, more so than we’ve seen them in the past. Capo held it down in Juelz’s absence between 2019 and 2020 but now, they’re back and stronger than ever as a unit.

“We’re older. Our mindset is different, we’re thinking different. The business moves that we’re making are different,” Jim Jones told HNHH. The two have a few plans for the foreseeable future – a possible venture into the tobacco industry, and a potential joint project.

Jim Jones & Juelz Santana via Via Publicist
Jim Jones & Juelz Santana via Via Publicist

“Jim’s hustle has always been undeniable,” Juelz added. “It’s something I’ve always able to look at no matter what I’m dealing with and find a goal in that to get me going. I’m just happy to be back at full motion.” 

For the latest installment of 12 Days Of Christmas, Jim Jones and Juelz Santana join HNHH to discuss Hip-Hop 50, KRS-One, bringing Master P to Harlem to film “Bout It Bout It III” and so much more.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity. 

HNHH: I feel like we’ve seen you guys on the road together a lot more this year. How has that been for you guys, just getting back on the road and hustling together?

Jim Jones: Feels good, man. Feels good to have my brother back. Have a brother back on the road. He was in school for a while, which took a little time from us but now we back full speed. It feels better than it did before, actually.

Juelz Santana: I totally agree.

Coming from such an iconic run during the 2000s, what are the differences and similarities between those times and now?

Jim Jones: What we did then, shit… The Diplomat run is undeniable. You can’t compare that to anything but it’s a bit different now. We’re older. Our mindset is different, we’re thinking different. The business moves that we’re making are different. It’s way more about the business than it is about the music, even though the music is just as much important but we more in the business now. I’d say 10% music, 90% business.

Juelz Santana: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. The approach is 100% different. But everything else is kinda the same. Jim’s hustle has always been undeniable. It’s something I’ve always able to look at no matter what I’m dealing with and find a goal in that to get me going. I’m just happy to be back at full motion. Getting ready to put out music at the top of the year. January with Drama, we’re gonna put out In Motion project. Turn sh*t up.

Jim Jones via publicist
Jim Jones via publicist

Jim, what’s the update on the Hitmaka project and when can we expect that to come out?

Jim Jones: Well, before the Hitmaka project, I’m actually dropping a Christmas album next week called 12 Days Of Christmas… Got a nice compilation going on with all of my artists… just to be in the Christmas spirit. Besides that, the Hitmaka project is coming at the top of the year. It’s an incredible project fully produced by Hitmaka. I’m excited, man. I got a record with Stefflon Don that I think could be a very big record. 

You just dropped a “Gunshot” with BEAM but I wanted to know, what was KRS’s reaction to hearing you use that sample?

Jim Jones: I didn’t actually get to speak with KRS personally about the sample but for all the samples you use from KRS-One, he has to give the thumbs up. So, that was good enough for me, man.

Back in the day, it was like, this shit ain’t even gonna last. [BDP] had to go through that era of really making people believe that hip-hop was gonna be here today as what it is.

And what memories does KRS-One’s “Step Into The World” bring back to you?

Jim Jones: Well, KRS-One was a big part of my life as a youngster. Not even a part of me becoming a rapper. BDP, Boogie Down Production.. *breaks into BDP’s “My Philosophy”*. BDP was so influential in the Bronx coming from Harlem. It was like the end-all-be-all. Very instrumental for me coming up as a youngster. “Black Cop,” so many records that resonates with me whenever I see KRS-One. His style. They had all the leather, the BDP jackets. Hats all fly. Man, Self-Destruction was another big record. There’s so much, man. I can recite KRS-One rhymes all day. 

Juelz Santana: And they was movin’ militant.

Jim Jones: Super militant. It was a little different back then. They was on their God body, hard body, you heard?

Juelz, would you mind chiming in? With Hip-Hop 50 coming up, I’d love to hear your thoughts on KRS-One’s impact on you coming up.

Juelz Santana: Oh, I was a super music head coming up. It’s funny we were just talking the other day in my house and I was telling some stories. I grew up just being a music head so I was definitely into KRS-One, heavy. The whole BDP. I mean, Jim hit it on the notes, man. They carried the Bronx. They had the Bronx on their back. KRS-One… his lyrics were on point. They were styling. They were putting on for the city, what else can I say? At a time when hip-hop was shunned upon, and I mean, way more than it’s shunned upon now. Now, they just pick and choose what genres they want to– like drill music and stuff like that. But back in the day, it was like, this shit ain’t even gonna last. They had to go through that era of really making people believe that hip-hop was gonna be here today as what it is. So to me, he’s part of that era. Sh*t.

Jim Jones: Speaking of making it last, just look how long– I don’t know if people know the correlation between KRS-One and D-Nice. D-Nice is probably one of the biggest DJs in the world, at this point in time. 

Juelz Santana: “25 to life, my name is D-Nice.”

Jim Jones: But he from BDP. DJ D-Nice in the president’s party and that type sh*t. He different. It shows you how far hip-hop came. 

Juelz Santana: D-Nice still doing his thing, now. Shout out to D-Nice. 

Jim Jones: He’s super doing his thing now. He’s the biggest DJ in the world.

Juelz Santana: He’s that dude.

Jim Jones: Don’t forget about Just-Ice. That was my man. Ms. Melody, KRS-One…

You mentioned how KRS-One and BDP, specifically, were moving militant. How did they influence maneuvering your way through the streets and the music industry?

Jim Jones: They set a precedent in the rap game of every era of gangsta rap to the way they were moving was different. You see them. It just felt like you shouldn’t play with them. I just watched them on TV because I didn’t even see them personally. This was something we was watching on TV. But the aura that they gave off, they might not be the n***as you want to play with. In turn, you take bits and pieces of everything you see in the rap game because that’s part of who you become. When you mix all of that together, you vicariously might have a little bit of KRS-One and BDP in you when you moving as a group. You make that into who you are as you become into your own artist and things like that.

Juelz Santana: You know how you talking about moving militant and shit and Capo was saying the difference between now and then. You know how now, certain n*ggas got that image and you kinda know, you’re like, “aww them n***as might kill you.” See, they didn’t have that aura. But they had the aura, “you gonna get a good ass whooping f*cking with them n*ggas.”

*Jim Jones laughs*

Juelz Santana: Like they gonna leave some of that leather jacket on you. They might leave the B from the BDP on your back. They look like they was gonna kick your ass. They didn’t look like they had no guns. They looked like you was going to leave the situation, but you was going to be in the hospital fuckin’ with them n***as. 

Do you two feel that energy is missing in hip-hop these days? 

Juelz Santana: No, it’s totally f*cking missing it. N***as ain’t kidding. N***as ain’t trying to get no a**whooping. Most n***as can’t fight. N***as get made now by picking up guns and shooting almost cooler than getting money nowadays. Sh*t, I don’t know. I’m just trying to stay safe. Make it home. Shit’s crazy out here. 

Jim Jones: A lot of things that are missing from what we used to do. A lot of lessons – it’s just nasty. Violence is at an all-time high right now in hip-hop. Do I wish we could settle our differences with fights nowadays? Yeah, I do. Do I wish we could settle our differences without violence nowadays? Yeah. The harsh reality – 

Juelz Santana: It’s f*cked up ‘cause as much as we want to tell them and we mean what we say when we say, “stop the violence, learn from our mistakes,” but there was a generation that was telling us the same thing. And we were still negating a lot of sh*t and just living recklessly and living fast and getting into sh*t in the streets. We had to live and learn. And I don’t think we want that for them ‘cause it’s ending up way worse, but who are we to really tell them? All we can do is just give our advice and sh*t. But the streets are gonna be the streets. N***as gonna be n***as in the streets.

Do you think there’s some sort of solution that could at least slow down the violence that’s happening in the culture?

Jim Jones: The solution is us taking a step at the solution. And that takes a combined effort of everybody with influence inside this hip-hop game. I’m not saying we could change the world and make everything stop by tomorrow but it’s worth a try. Figure out something that could help our situation, maybe make it a little bit better. You gotta be accountable, first of all. You gotta hold people accountable for what’s going on before we wanna move forward. There’s a lot to it, man. But I do know one thing, there are a lot of rappers out here that hold a lot of influence, even me and Juelz. We need to start banding together and push forward a narrative that can help start the solution. Make this gun violence disappear. 

Juelz Santana: I agree. I totally agree.

I got a record with Durk, super dope. I got a record with A Boogie, super dope. I got a record with Dej Loaf and Young Thug, super dope.

I wanna just pivot back into the music quick, Juelz specifically for you, you just dropped Whitney and you were mentioning you had a new project on the way. You said the project’s called In Motion?

Juelz Santana: We In Motion. Gangsta Grillz with DJ Drama. Finally. It’s long-awaited. Me and Drama had talked about doing a tape years ago. Me and Jeezy were actually supposed to do a tape together and it was supposed to be with DJ Drama. We doin’ that at the top of the year.

Before we go into the project, can you tell me more about this Juelz/Jeezy tape that was supposed to come out? When did you guys have this discussion?

JS: Oh, you know, I was at Def Jam. Jeezy was at Def Jam. When Jeezy first came out. Right before his album came out, that was one of the reasons me and Wayne wound up doing the I Can’t Feel My Face tape. I don’t know if you know but if you look back, me and Jeezy got a couple of records together. Like, 4 records, and those were supposed to be the records for the tape but Jeezy really took off. He had a very successful career and it just didn’t pan out at the time. Wayne reached out to me like, “Yo, when that tape coming out?” I was like, “I don’t know. I’m waiting on the boy to finish some records and sh*t.” And he was like, “sh*t, if he ain’t with it, then let’s do a tape,” and it just so happened that me and Wayne ended up doing a tour the next month. It was me, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown, and Dem Franchise Boyz. And me and Wayne had just built a bond that was crazy throughout that tour. Just going to the studio every night and just, know what I’m saying? We recorded tons of music and got I Can’t Feel My Face from that. I mean, us not doing that, got us I Can’t Feel My Face. So I’m kinda happy that it happened.

So what’s the status of the I Can’t Feel My Face project…

JS: I Can’t Feel My Face running the streets right now. We gonna turn this thing into a movement, it’s a whole lifestyle. It’s an empire. But as far as the Wayne project, that’s my brother – I don’t even need to promote that project anymore. Me and Wayne got a lot of songs in the stash and when they come out, they gonna come out. We don’t need to promote it, we just gonna slap it and say I Can’t Feel My Face out like how Beyonce did the Lemonade album. I hate talking about it ‘cause then they wanna say “Juelz said this about I Can’t Feel My Face…” Nah, I ain’t doin’ all that. Wayne’s my brother. We got a relationship that’s deeper than music but we always record music together.

That’s exciting. I will say though, your verse on Tha Carter III is probably my favorite verse on that entire album to this day.

JS: I’m still waiting on fuckin’ my Carter III plaque. Mac, I need my plaque, baby.

Well, I hope he reads this and that comes your way this holiday season.

JS: Yeah, that’d be a good Christmas gift. How many Tha Carter III sold? Almost 10 million, right? I would take that plaque.

You dropped “Whitney” and I think you recently teased a record with Lil Durk, am I correct?

JS: Yeah, I teased a couple of records. I got a record with Durk, super dope. I got a record with A Boogie, super dope. I got a record with Dej Loaf and Young Thug, super dope. I think it’s gonna be a great look. Great look for myself but also a great look for Dej Loaf. I love Dej Loaf as an artist. I think this is definitely gonna get the people like, “what the f*ck? We need some Dej sh*t, too.” So I’m really excited about this project. It’s called We In Motion. Me, Jim and Meek got a record that’s real dope that’s gonna be on there. So January, top of the year, stepping on them. We got a lot of dope artists I’m bringing with me. So, I’m just looking forward to the movement. Lotta motion, lotta motion.

Juelz Santana via publicist

Will we be hearing that as a single before the album drops or is that something we have to wait for?

JS: Well I mean the top of the year is here, that’s why I didn’t put the record out. I’m doing it around January first. Super top of the year, preferably January 1st. If all goes well. I just didn’t feel like I needed to drop too many records, you know? I’m probably gonna drop one before it but I’ma give yall what y’all been asking for, which is a whole project from Juelz Santana, at least 12-15 songs. The ball will be rolling and then we can just keep it going from there. 

Jim, how much of a role did you play in Juelz and Drama together for a Gangsta Grillz?

JS: Jim played 90%. 90%.

JJ: I ain’t gonna lie. Juelz said the other day, “I wanna do this Drama tape.” I said, “Drama gon’ do the tape,” and then, we were on a No Jumper interview and Juelz was talking about it and then Drama called his phone like “where the music at?” Done.

JS: I say 90% because — of course, Jim, he don’t gotta call Drama and ask. Like, we all got relationships but just as far as helping me just get in motion and getting me in the space of where I need to be. Putting out music and being creative. You know, ready to put out music and just keeping us alive with the music he’s been putting out. Being so effective in the game. It’s just been good to watch.

JJ: It ain’t over, we just started. That’s what it feels like. 

JS: By the way, we been talking about doing a project together, too. Putting out something. I think the people are ready for that now. They’ll accept that without giving us no sh*t about awww it’s not a Dipset project. But me and Jim, we working. Whatever is gonna come out of it is gonna come out of it. That’s my brother.

I did wanna ask on the status of the Dipset movie because I remember you were all waiting for Juelz to come home. Is there any update on that?

JJ: Not yet. I mean, not yet. But this is something – time changes everything but there’s no update on that but just something else to look forward to. A movie about the Diplomats history and things like that. Definitely the people need to see it. We definitely have a dope story from where we started to where we are. Where rap took us. The whole adventure in between, it’s definitely worth seeing. 

Do you have any interest in directing a movie, specifically a Christmas movie?

JJ: Specifically a Christmas movie? I never think about no Christmas movie but directing, I do have a passion for. I definitely wanna naturally progress from doing videos to shooting movies and short films and documentaries. And also, that takes a lot of time, most of the stuff.

Looking back, [Master P] was definitely a good sport. I definitely would’ve told myself some fly shit like that, too, if I was Master P.

Speaking of directing, when Cam’ron was on Drink Champs he discussed the “Bout It Bout It III” music video. He recalled how Master P was under the scorching sun, and yelling at you that he’s worth $400 million. I wanted your guys’ perspective on that day.

JJ: That definitely was a different day. You know, a bit younger. Fame was coming at us fast but that day was special. Master P came out –

JS: Yo Capo, you really remember that day, though?

JJ: I remember that day clearly because I remember he came out the whip –

JS: You remember me, though? You remember what was going on with me? 

JJ: What happened that day?

JS: I had a warrant that day. Remember I was hiding in the trailer?

JJ: We was tucking you and all that shit!

JS: I was duckin’ in and out of the scenes. The police was looking for my a**, boy. 

JJ: That’s when you were locked up and Cam did the song couple of days later. The ‘get him out ASAP,’ right?

JS: “What’s Really Good.”

JJ: Looking back, [Master P] was definitely a good sport. I definitely would’ve told myself some fly shit like that, too, if I was Master P. He was as courteous as he could be, man, I will tell you that. But he definitely styled on me like a lil’ n***a. Like, ‘Lil’ n***a, I’ma give you the benefit of the doubt but huh, I’m worth that money.’

JS: He was at that point in his life where n***as have so much money, they don’t even know what to say. They just start makin’ up shit to say. “I got $400 million! Why I’m standin’ in the sun, n***a?” Everybody standin’ in the sun, n***a! The sun is there, mothafucka! You can’t buy the sun, n***a! You know what I’m sayin’? N***a got so much money, a n***a don’t even know what to say. “N***a, the sun? Get that n***a out of here. Move him over there.” Like, nah we can’t do that. Know what I mean? N***a be sayin’ some wild sh*t when he got all that money.

Juelz that was in your neighborhood though, right? 

JS: Yeah pretty much. I mean, it was literally in my neighborhood what I would call my stomping grounds. Battle Grounds park where I always be. Hung out, grew up. Sh*t like that. But, yeah ‘bout 2 or 3 blocks away from my house where I used to live at on 53rd street. That was dope. Bring Master P to the hood. We were known for that, though. We’d bring n*ggas to so many different parts of Harlem. N*ggas had Baby on 140th. N***as had everybody everywhere.

Well bringing artists to Harlem is kind of a tradition for you guys at this point. Who else sticks out to you in terms of artists you’ve brought from out of New York into Harlem?

JJ: Everybody. We had Meek in Harlem this summer. We had Icewear Vezzo in Harlem. We had Fivi’ out there with us. You name it, they be pullin’ up. Harlem was busy this summer. We had Lil Migo this summer. We had Yo Gotti in Harlem, shooting videos. Sh*t, I had Mozzy come to Harlem, shot a video. Had Yung Berg out there this summer shooting a video. I had Stefflon Don out there shooting a video. 

JS: We had the whole BMF in Harlem. We had the whole BMF in Harlem on the rooftops.

You had the whole BMF out in Harlem with you guys?

JJ: On my block! If you go to the video with me, Jeezy, and Lil Wayne called “Make It Work For You” – it’s on my second album – Meech is in that video. The video with Jeezy’s verse was shot in my mother’s bedroom. Jeezy was standing on my mother’s waterbed, damn near, like recording. My man Duke The God was like fake engineering Jeezy in the video. We was making the CDs like it was crack. That was in my kitchen where I grew up at. That was literally in my house, the whole house that I grew up at, from a baby until I met Jim and Cam and they took me out the hood. Literally, that’s where that video was shot at. And the whole BMF came. Them n*ggas had phantoms all out on the block. Meech and them was up top. There’s footage of that on the internet.

Aside from what you already do business wise, is there any other industry you’d like to enter in 2023?

JJ: I’d like to get back into the alcohol and beverage industry again. I’ve got something I’d like to push forward. We venturing into the tobacco business, me and Juelz.

Dipset cigarettes are on the way?

JJ: Not cigarettes. We don’t smoke cigarettes, we smoke weed. I had a meeting today actually, I wish I could talk about it. I been working though, man. I’m hyped. Sh*ts gonna happen that people are going to get very excited to see.

Juelz, what about you?

JS: Same. I agree man. Just building this empire right now. ICFMF. I Can’t Feel My Face. I got some super dope artists. Got the clothing line. Of course, like Capo said, we venturing off into tobacco. My brand is getting real big som of course, I’m going to go into all the products that can be sold, legally, as far as that industry is concerned. Like, the pens and all that stuff. Just everything, ‘cause the brand is just growing so strong, down to the movies. I wrote 3 scripts. You were talking to Jim and I didn’t want to [interrupt] but I actually wrote 3 scripts while I was incarcerated. I’m just waiting to get them into the right hands. I truly believe in them. They super dope. The concepts behind them — you know, that’s not our area so I’m just waiting for the right person to hear me. I know they dope. I don’t really wanna act so much, but if I get a role or something… but I ain’t shooting for that. I just kinda wanna be behind the scenes with that. As I said, just building my brand ICFMF into an empire.

Both of you came to 21 Savage’s defense when he made his comments about Nas and then, the song came out. What were your thoughts on the two of them coming together after that?

JJ: I think that’s pretty dope. It’s dope to see them do a record together, it’s dope to see Nas [took] it as any misunderstanding. We all have opinions as to what’s going on out there. But seeing generations from right now mixed in with generations from back then and both are relevant entities in hip-hop culture, it’s pretty dope. It shows a lesson to music moving forward and we both need to meet at a medium. So there’s a lot of confusion and conflict when it comes to rappers from the older generation to up-and-coming rappers and rappers from the younger generation that are very influential and things like that. But what we really need is to come together and make more music, like what 21 and Nas just did. It’s something that me and Juelz been doing all the time. We need more of it.

JS: I agree. I think that was dope that they came up with that and it didn’t lead to anything else. I think that was a positive solution for the situation, especially for the younger generation to see. It was kinda like touching back – not to move backward but like Jim was saying, just taking steps in a positive direction. That sh*t coulda went left, but it went right. Two grown men like that.

JJ: We all gotta learn to agree to disagree without causing conflict. It’s very big and what they did is exactly that.

JS: Even with Jungle, who’s Nas’s brother. He said something. He tweeted something, sharing his opinion and how he felt during the time about the situation. But like I said, it just goes to show you nobody lets too many feelings get involved and stuff. They carried that like men, and how they should have carried it.

I feel like we put our imprint on this game to the point that we are part of this history.

What do you guys think the key is to create an understanding between the younger generation and the OGs?

JJ: Everybody being open-minded. It’s not just the older people that have to be open-minded to what the younger people have. The younger people have to be open-minded to some of the things that we’ve provided for them. It’s a two-way street. But I always wanna give advice, give a helping hand — this is what I do, ‘cause I was once in a position where I didn’t have them people that I needed to count on that was in the game and that could help guide me and give the advice that I needed. So this is one of the things that I’ve been doing for so long as far as helping youngsters.

Juelz: And then, some of those guys get past that “f*ck it” age. In life, man – I don’t know what age it is, but you go through this “f*ck it” age. Some people get through it fast, they grow up quicker than others, but you go through that time where it’s like “f*ck it,” especially if you winning and you’re doing you. How do you get through that? As far as them younger kids ‘cause I think once that attitude gets instilled in them and then they start feeling themselves getting into the paper, it’s kind of like, what can you really say to somebody like that?

Do you guys feel that the impact and the lane and the contributions of Dipset are something that is recognized by the younger generations just based on your interactions with a lot of the new rappers?

JJ: You can definitely see the impact on today’s younger generation, for sure. Listen to these drill beats and these drill beats have a lot of heavy samples like Dipset. It’s no different to style. It seems like it’s 2003 again as I’m seeing the BB Simon belts, True Religion cut jeans to rock and roll this, rock and roll that. It’s something that we created wholeheartedly. The rap-rockstars is us. We did that. That was something that we started. So seeing a lot of these things coming back is pretty dope, just to see how heavy our impact was and still is today. So I appreciate that.

JS: Facts. Super facts. That’s why we can’t lose right now. I feel like we’re in a situation where as long as we keep doing what we doing –  what we selling…we selling a lifestyle. We selling what we do, what we been giving them for years. People been winning off of us for years. It’s no different. It’s just under our roof now. It’s gonna be in our building now. We gotta be hands-on, which we shoulda been, but, you live and you learn.

How does it feel being a part of that history in that sense? Because what KRS-One meant to you is what you guys meant to a lot of kids who came up under you. And that impact is everlasting.

JJ: I mean, to be a part of history in hip-hop… it’s something you think about as a kid, wanting to be a rapper. But to know that you actually did that and accomplished that… I feel like we put our imprint on this game to the point that we are part of this history. That you could pull out a file on us and the things that resonates with people all over. Things that we started and created. Having opportunities to come out of our hood through our music, rap music. [1:07:00-1:07:25].

JS: Yeah I agree. I feel like, I don’t want this to come out the wrong way – *call cuts out*.

Did we lose Juelz?

JJ: He comin’ back. I think he’s on the phone. 

Before he comes back, I wanted your take on Kanye’s recent presidential campaign and alignment with alt-right figures since we discussed Ye’s genius earlier this year. 

JJ: Kanye is very interesting. He’s a bug out. Lately, I’ve been finding a lot of the things that he’s doing – the direction he’s going in, I don’t know where he’s going so I kinda got to step back all his antics. Is he a genius? Is he smart? Yes, he’s very smart. But sometimes, you can be too smart for your own good. Do I wish he figured all this out and maybe, there’s a method to his madness? I pray there is but where he’s at right now is a very dangerous place. And I don’t know if too many people are next to him that’s giving him some sound advice that he might need to navigate where he’s going. But for me, I’ma back off Kanye for a little while. I don’t understand where he’s going with it. Talking about things I have no interest in even getting into it It’s one thing when you fighting for a cause and making sense and things that people could latch onto. It’s crazy. He went from being a billionaire to being – I don’t even know what. Society builds you up to tear you down, they do say that. Sometimes you trick yourself out of your own  position just by doing stupid sh*t and having too much money. Like Juelz said, “Move the sun! Where the f*ck is the sun? I have $400 million, n***a! Why am I out here in the sun? Move the sun over.” He’s on that trip right now. He’s trying to move the sun. This n*gga’s crazy!

JS: Crazy. All I’m gonna say, man, ‘cause I don’t really wanna say nothing. I wish Kanye the best, man. I’ma pray for the guy, my guy. And I feel Kanye gonna make it through whatever. He gonna get through it. So I’ma just keep wishing ol’ boy the best and see how everything continues to play out.

Juelz, just wanted to get you to pick up where you left off before you cut out about Dipset’s legacy in hip-hop. 

JS: I was just saying how they owe us a lot more credit than they give us. Like Capo was saying, the whole sound of hip-hop is Dipset-related, from the samples. Even if people don’t know it, so much goes back to our original sound. The sound that we created and the sound that we put out there. I think our era was one of the strongest eras to ever get put in front of the people. I was gonna say – I didn’t want it to get taken the wrong way – but I feel like our era was one of the strongest eras. I’ma just say that. It’s just like the Jordan era because you’re going to have people say, a lot of people before Jordan was better than Jordan. But, they paved the way. The people in the early games – it’s f*cked up – but they never get the credit even though they put in the most work. In every sport, every category of everything, the people that start sh*t never get the full credit that they deserve. They don’t get the money they deserve. They don’t get the just due they deserve. Nothing. That’s why I say our era is the strongest ‘cause we kinda came in that era where it was super potent and effective. Like they paved the way but we kinda got to reap the benefits and really lead that impact on the world. Now, you got these artists now that see all the money from it, which is like basketball, you know?

Desiigner’s Only Getting “Bigger & Bigger”: The Former G.O.O.D Music Signee Details Debut Studio Album, “Cruel Winter” Sessions, & Potential Christmas Music

The music industry can be taxing on everyone who partakes in it, from artists to journalists and everyone in between. Unfortunately, the Hip-Hop community deals with additional issues that can make the music business even harder to stomach. On November 1, we learned of Takeoff’s passing, and in a year that has also taken away artists like PnB Rock and Trouble, many rappers were understandably distraught. Desiigner was one of those rappers.

“Yo, I’m done, I’m done, I’m done,” Desiigner lamented in a video response to Takeoff’s death. “Why do we fucking do this? I swear this shit ain’t nothing. I’m done [with] rap. It’s done, it’s done, it’s done, it’s done. Not to Takeoff, bro. It’s done.”

Desiigner’s reaction was harrowing and, more importantly, representative of the pain that many of us have felt all year long. For a moment, it appeared that the 25-year-old artist was ready to call it quits on his rap career. Thankfully, he did not because he still has a role to play in the Hip-Hop community. Like it or not, Desiigner — once touted as the crown prince of GOOD Music — is in Hip-Hop’s history books. And that’s not up for debate. 

Thanks to the mid-2010s smash hit “Panda,” the New York-bred artist has a quintuple-platinum-certified record under his belt. In addition to those early career RIAA certifications, Desiigner also landed multiple appearances on Ye’s The Life of Pablo. His mentor heavily sampled “Panda” on “Pt. 2,” and Desiigner also appeared on the joyously chaotic “Freestyle 4.”

Desiigner’s presence on TLOP served as a huge co-sign from the artist formerly known as Kanye West. At the time, it was rare for Ye to feature GOOD signees, especially newer ones, on his albums. During his creative stretch from Yeezus to TLOP, Kid Cudi was the only recurring GOOD-affiliated artist on Ye’s solo efforts. Desiigner’s presence on TLOP broke that trend, and subsequently, his life changed forever.

(L-R) Desiigner and Pusha-T attend the FADER FORT presented by Converse during SXSW on March 16, 2016 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Roger Kisby/Getty Images)

Bringing youthful energy to the seasoned GOOD roster, Desiigner teamed up with his labelmates for “Champions.” The sensational posse cut was the first and last single for the long-awaited Cruel Winter compilation album, and six years later, it’s still a poignant reminder of what could have been.

Nevertheless, Desiigner’s infectious hook work on “Champions” further made him a shoo-in for the 2016 XXL Freshman Class. As expected, Desiigner made it on the XXL cover, appearing alongside industry leaders such as Lil Uzi Vert, Kodak Black, Anderson .Paak, and 21 Savage. Surprisingly, Desiigner was able to dominate a significant amount of the 2016 XXL Freshman buzz thanks to his unforgettable freestyle. After going viral for his trance-like freestyle, Desiigner delivered “Tiimmy Turner,” and the success of that single paved the way for his debut mixtape, New English. A couple of years later, he followed that project up with his debut EP, Life of Desiigner. Unfortunately, his official debut studio album never materialized during his tenure on GOOD Music.

Years removed from the record label that helped make him a worldwide phenomenon, the New York-bred rapper is in a good place. However, Desiigner has his sights set on “Bigger and Bigger” things in 2023. Following a flurry of fiery fourth-quarter singles, Desiigner recently joined HNHH for an exclusive 12 Days of Christmas interview. Throughout our conversation, the Grammy-nominated artist discussed his long-awaited debut album, major lifestyle changes, and his deep love for Christmas music. Furthermore, he shared with us insane details about Cruel Winter, and he also revealed his fondest GOOD Music memories.

Scroll down for Desiigner’s full 12 Days of Christmas interview, edited lightly for length and clarity.

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Desiigner joins HNHH for a enthusiastic 12 Days of Christmas Q&A.

HNHH: Today, you dropped “Bigger and Bigger.” How are you feeling about that?

Desiigner: Yo! Feeling amazing. Word man, I’m just now waking up man from the strip club. Just now, man. It was a vibe. It was cool man. I’m happy to drop some more super shit for y’all, for real. And just keeping it going. We supposed to have the video coming up in the next couple of days. Getting that shot, making sure it’s prepped up for y’all. Get that up, word up.

Bet. So were they playing “Bigger and “Bigger” in the club last night?

Yeah, word. They played that thing a couple of times. We was in there vibing. No funny, it had to get ran back.

I’m really feeling that one. Of the four most recent ones that you just dropped within the last month, I think that was my favorite one. That one and “Kilo.” I really liked “Star In The Room,” too, but we’ll get to that. Let’s talk about “Kilo” with Slim Jxmmi. Tell me how that one came to be. How’d you two connect?

It was a situation where he was flying into town. He flew in LA, right as I was coming. So when I went to the crib, I told Kyle, KT, and everybody, ‘I’m on my way out.’ When I came back, they was already on the phone with Slim Jxm. They was like, ‘Yo, Slim on his way.’

So soon as I came in, you know, in the studio, I heard the beat. Beat sounded crazy lit, so I was like I need to jump on it. Once I jumped on it, Slim was already walking in the studio. He was tired, you know. Bro was mad tired. He fell asleep, and then out of nowhere, he just got up. Man was on a pen and paper, just writing and getting lit. We partied all night. It was a great celebration after that one. It was cool.

He came correct on that one. It was very reminiscent of the mid-2010s, like how he used to be. I guess since we haven’t had a lot of Rae Sremmurd music recently, it felt really good.

Word, no kizzy. Slim? He go hard, man. We’re working on a project right now. Slim got some shit, man. Definitely, definitely. I feel like he put put some shit on that verse, for sure for sure. That’s a vibe, you feel me?

Gotchu. Did he let you listen to any of Sremmlife 4 by chance?

Ah, nah. I listened to Sremmlife 4, man. But when he was in Saudi Arabia, he was talking about me and him coming back and working in Atlanta. We gon’ put some work in, you know what I mean. There might be Desiigner x Sremmlife vibes, I don’t know man.

That’s exciting. Y’all definitely both got that infectious energy. Well, let’s talk about the other singles. Like I mentioned you dropped four singles in a matter of a month. What inspired you to go on this run?

I just wanted to just give it to y’all. I feel like the game has changed. The game ain’t like when artists could just give the supporters one single and keep driving and pushing. I feel like the game has changed so much. Y’all just want to hear more music and hear your homeboys just dropping heat on a spree. I just love the idea of moving with my brand now. I wanted to have been doing that since the beginning, when I was with Def Jam. But when were you dealing with certain major labels, they just don’t see it like that. 

Like they ain’t understand the SoundCloud wave, when we were just going on SoundCloud and throwing that thing up. This was before they were doing the subscriptions, and you could be able to tap in with your supporters. Get a video out later on that week or whatever. Like you could just make sure you could keep it going for your shows and stuff. So definitely, getting back on this was something I always wanted to do. It’s super fun now, super fun. I’m moving like that rather than just trying to promote a record all day. I can promote it and let my people promote it, and then when I go to this club or go to my shows, I can keep banging ‘em non-stop.

I wanted to have been doing that since the beginning, when I was with Def Jam. But when were you dealing with certain major labels, they just don’t see it like that. 

Nah, definitely. It helps build up momentum. When I was going track by track, I was like yeah, ‘He’s getting into a groove.’ With that said, each of them has a different vibe to it, especially “Star In The Room.” I would say is the most different of all of them. 

Appreciate it bro. 

No worries, man. I was looking at the credits. I’m just like a nerd with the music stuff, so I be looking at the credits. You’re credited as a producer on “Star In The Room,” “My Brodie,” “Kilo,” and “Bigger and Bigger.” Have you been getting behind the boards more?

Definitely, man. Produced them, for sure for sure. Being able to put certain things and touches when we in the room and seeing how it’s gonna come out [is important]. I just got that type of air, and I love being part of the lyrics as well as being a part of the production.

Desiigner performs at It’s Time For Hip Hop In NYC: Brooklyn at Brooklyn Army Terminal on August 19, 2021 in New York, New York. (Photo by Jason Mendez/Getty Images)

Interesting. What made you get into production? Or have you been producing, and we just didn’t really know?

[Laughs] I did “Tiimy Turner” with Mike Dean. Y’all probably just don’t really know. Yeah, Mike Dean did the pianos and stuff at the end. He was dope, and he was impressed that I even had some beat cadence like that. Dean was like, ‘Yo, man, that was fire.’ He liked it. And so he was like, ‘Yo, bro, I ain’t gon’ lie — you go hard. But I’mma put some saucy on it for you.’ And from then on after “Tiimmy Turner,” we were locked. Our relationship built after that, from that creation we made.

That’s dope. Well, since you’ve already dropped these singles, what else do you have planned for the rest of 2022? Because I know you’re not finna stop.

Oh yeah, man. Nonstop. Word, what else we got planned? We got this video coming out, like I said for “Bigger and Bigger.” Definitely tryna hear about some merch. I’ll probably have some Christmas vibes or some coming up for y’all. Going into 2023, man, we just going hard. I’m thinking about restaurants I want to open up. Thinking of live centers with games where kids could come over there and stream live. I’m thinking about a whole bunch of things. I’m putting it together step-by-step, but it’s all gonna get accomplished.

New Color. The new album’s called New Color. I’m working on it right now.

Nah, for sure. Well, one of the things that I think a lot of people may be interested in is your debut album. You’re kind of like a path similar to Jay Electronica, with how it’s been a long wait for your debut. 

Yeah, word man.

New English was a mixtape.

Yeah.

Life of Desiigner was an EP.

Yeah.

So yeah, we’re waiting, man!

New Color. The new album’s called New Color. I’m working on it right now. It’s fire. I got some features on it already. It’s lit. I’m just putting it together. Shout out to a couple of great producers, like Rich Skillz, ATL [Jacob]. You know what I’m saying, people like that. 

New Color, you said, right?

Yeah, New Color, man.

Gotcha. And what has that process been like putting it together? Because it’s been a long time coming. Does it feel like you’ve got a lot of like weight going into it? Are you just having a good time with it?

Um, I feel like it’s cool. Even with me just thinking about the color, like the color of the cover. I’m really trying to bring out a new color, something that we haven’t seen before. Bringing that and making it aesthetically match with the music and having that paired with the music right is gonna be dope. 

Gotcha. Yeah, that sounds lit. Listening to you talk now compared to when I was watching interviews from when you first came out, I can see your growth. You’re 25 now, so how are you approaching the game differently from when you were 19?

I’m just approaching the game more comfortably, you feel me. P Diddy told me like, ‘Yo, it’s gonna take like five years before you get really comfortable in the shit.’ And word, it just took that. That and yoga, breathing, and understanding balance in life. When you get in the fast lane, you just got to understand that balance. It’s not the same as when you was a kid and you could just say, “Ayo, I’m outside. I’m gonna go turn up, and we will come to the crib and go to sleep.  You really got to have this shit organized. You got to make sure you got your stuff together. You’re growing up, maturing, and you are a business. So yeah, become more mature and understand that this is given. I’m appreciating it and knowing that it was given to me. I’m just moving like that, you feel me?

Yeah. So how did the transition from like Def Jam and GOOD Music to independence influence your maturity and music as well?

There were executive decisions that I had to make. I had to adopt the standpoint of whatever I’m saying right now, I’m standing on it. And I gotta make some out of it. I can’t it and then be going back to the hood. That ain’t gonna happen. I got to make sure whatever I’m doing right now is gonna push me 20 steps ahead. Thinking like that and knowing that I had to make decisions like that in my career and my life always kept me [focused]. Breathing. balance. Vibes like that.

NEW YORK, NY – AUGUST 28: Kanye West (L) and Desiigner attend the 2016 MTV Video Music Awards at Madison Square Garden on August 28, 2016 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)

Speaking on what you just said about saying stuff and standing on it, I have a question for you about the “Letter to Ye” song that you dropped last year. In that song, you rapped, ‘They let me through the doors/now it’s time to live it up.’ And you’ve been standing on that. You’ve definitely been going hard this year. But tell me about the whole idea and conceptualization behind “Letter to Ye.”

I really just wanted to speak about it. I felt like I never really got to talk to Ye at that time. We met each other, but we hadn’t really like met each other. We greeted each other, but we hadn’t really met each other, you feel what I’m saying? I wanted to meet him and really speak to him and understand each other. Because that’s the type of artist I am. Every artist works differently. I like to have conversations with people and build, and as we talk, I’m generating the song. It really wasn’t like that with him.

It was more like, I’m signed to bruh, and bruh was just like, ‘We in the stu, do what you do.’ I wanted to hear something, like bro, you’re Kanye West. I wanted to hear some of that Kanye vibe that’ll inspire me to [go off]. But yeah, moving with Ye, it’s helped me. It’s helped me focus on that thing that I got. Become more mature and know that I do have the executive decisions, again. I gotta make sure what I’m standing is straight because ain’t nobody around gonna lead you. You got to make sure what you’re doing is sturdy.

Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, you stood on what you said in “Letter to Ye.’ You went crazy this year. Even at the beginning, you dropped “BAKIN” with Slushii and DJ Whoo Kid. 

Word up, man. Shout out to Bob Saget. Yeah, RIP the goat.

How did that connection come about? I know Snoop was in the video, but like, was that connection really through Snoop Dogg?

Not that connection was through DJ Whoo Kid. Whoo Kid knew Bob Saget.

Oh, okay. I was not expecting that answer.

Yeah, it was a vibe man. Whoo Kid, Bob Saget, man it was all chill. He was over there turned up too, slapping the booty on a stripper and all that. [laughs]

Ah, RIP man.

Word up, man RIP the GOAT. Full House, man. If anybody don’t know Bob Saget is, if you’ve seen Full House, you’ve seen that guy man. 

Man, I used to watch that show all the time on Nick at Nite. It’s so crazy looking back. But someone else who we lost this is Takeoff. I mean, we’ve lost so many people this year, it’s really tragic. But with Takeoff, specifically, you had a reaction to his passing online. I know you’ve worked with Quavo on champions, but like I’m you’ve probably worked with all of the Migos behind the scenes and we just haven’t known it. So what was your relationship like with Takeoff?

Dope, bro. It was amazing. My first time coming out to Atlanta, I went to go see them. I took my niggas out there. We was chilling. It was a movie meeting bro. Next time, we always linked up. I can’t say every time, but bros know the vibes. Those were my boys before “Bad and Bougee” blew up. I was over there chilling with them, Teyanna and Shump. We all had that family understanding.

The Migos and Teyanna were like my go-to’s in the beginning of the game for me. Even towards the end of bro life, like at Hennessy’s birthday party. Me and Takeoff, we were over there chillin’ and talking about how we shrooming it. So yeah, it was that type of bond with my boy. Every time I seen my boy, it was good vibes. Sturdy, sturdy. Heavy in the A. And he was one to talk like, ‘Yeah, you got it twin. Yeah, you got it.’ 100%

Man, rest in peace to the Rocket for real.

No funny. We taking off forever.

Speaking of the connection between you and Migos, let’s go back to “Champions.” That song was just such a big moment. But on the real, was Cruel Winter ever actually close to becoming a real thing?

Yeah, honestly, it really was. Honestly, we was in studio, and we was working on it. Ty Dolla, all of us. Word, Nicki. Yeah, everybody was on that joint man. It was about to be dope. And Ye was just doing his thing. Ye had things, [grunts] other things he was working on at the time, and it just never got finished up. But word man, we still got our verses in our phones and a lot of verses in them studio files.

Ah man, it always sucks to hear stuff like that. I was kind of hoping you were gonna say, ‘Nah, it was just in the early stages.’

[Laughs] You just don’t know when it comes down to Kanye, man. Bro might just say, ‘Yo, let’s all get back in the studio for something.’

I don’t know for certain, but I think I was the first one to start with the seven, in the gang. I wanted to give y’all something with different vibes. Then when I heard bro was doing sevens, I’m like, ‘Yo, that’s crazy.’

Speaking of that — I’ve been having this theory for a long time as well — but was L.O.D. kind of Ye’s unofficial start to the album every week thing in 2018? Because that project, Valee’s project, and 070 Shake’s project were all like six or seven tracks like the rest of the GOOD albums that came out that summer. Was GOOD Music just obsessed with like, short projects at the time? Or what?

[Laughs] You know what it was, man? I don’t know for certain, but I think I was the first one to start with the seven, in the gang. I wanted to give y’all something with different vibes. Then when I heard bro was doing sevens, I’m like, ‘Yo, that’s crazy.’ The whole team was working on the same frequency. Since we’d be around each other so much at that time. We would just pick up each other’s things. Like I’m doing seven, and then you’ll hear that Kanye is dropping and doing an album with seven songs next week. It was like, ‘Okay!’ Everybody was just moving in that moment, and we was doing the same shit. It’s crazy how you can share ideas like that. 

Yeah, that’s really interesting. One more question about GOOD. When looking back at the entire experience you had with that label, what was your favorite memory?

That Summer Jam moment. I’m not gonna lie, bro. No cap. It was me Travis, and all of us on stage. We were supposed to have a GOOD Music tour coming. 

(L-R) Desiigner, Travis Scott, 2 Chainz, and Kanye West perform at Hot 97’s Summer Jam 2016 at MetLife Stadium on June 5, 2016 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. (Photo by Johnny Nunez/WireImage)

That would have been crazy.

Crazy. It was about to get crazy, but something happened where couldn’t do it. But them times when we were performing together were the best. Even that night after the time when we flooded out the city. Yo Gotti came out. Qua came out. Travis. Lil Yachty. They was talking about it on like Complex, how we just turned up and was jumping in the crowd. It was a movie, bro. To see all of us in one spot, but it’s just a whole nother party. 

That’s beautiful. You could probably write a book with all the stuff that you have witnessed and just how insane that whole time period was. I definitely feel like mid to late 2010s was a different time.

Word, man, it was. It was turnt. It was sturdy, man. No funny. It was good vibes with everybody coming out. We just wanted to turn up, man. We were more in the club action around that time.

Speaking of clubs. You appeared in the video for a very popular club song last year. “She Make It Clap.” When I was watching it for the first time — because I actually was writing about for work — I was like, ‘Is that Desiigner?’ So what’s the story behind that? How did you end up in that video?

Oh, that’s my brother, man. Me and Soulja be on Live frequently. We be talking, that’s my boy Draco. I had to pull up on my boy. We linked up, he hit me in the DM and was like, ‘Yo D, pull up on the video.” He’s been fucking with me since I was a kid. I’ve been fucking with him, of course, since we was kids. So I was like, ‘Aight, bet bro.’ It was like me and my older brother, just chilling out. 

He put me on things that he was doing. And it’s like, Soulja get bread bro. I ain’t even gon’ lie. He got so much shit he be doing. I like that shit. Being around bro, he be putting me on things.

No cap, I feel like he’s kind of like the rap Ray J. Both of them always got some type of venture going on.

You feel me? [laughs]

So with all these iconic artists that we’ve mentioned, who would you say are some of your favorite people that you like collaborating with? And who are you still trying to collaborate with in the future?

I like how me and Soulja be collaborating. Cause we be chilling. It be jokes, it be laughing. We can play the game all while making mad shit. And Jay Critch. Pharrell. I love me and Pharrell collaborated. Damn, Rick Ross. I got so many people, man, and I don’t want to miss any names. But heck yeah, I love when me and Swizz Beatz collaborate. The energy with Swizz Beatz was different. So many dope legends. When you’re around the legends and they’re working, it’s a whole nother vibe. I love being around the GOATs and the young up-and-coming artists. Lil TJay, that’s my lil bro. When I’m around the young guys, it feels good to see them being in the space where I was at right before I blew. Seeing that shit never gets old.

I wasn’t the kid who got everything on Christmas that I wanted. And I ain’t never asked for much because I didn’t think we could get it all. I was a kid with a little tree, big Christmas.

Gotchu, respect. Well, I got some Christmas questions for you since this is our 12 Days of Christmas thing. You celebrate Christmas?

Aye, word man. Little tree, big Christmas.

What are some of your favorite Christmas traditions?

Oh man, really just mackin’ out, being with my homeboys, being with family, and just chilling Like I said, I was a kid with a little tree, big Christmas. So just having that mindset of wanting to see us all chill. I wasn’t the kid who got everything on Christmas that I wanted. And I ain’t never asked for much because I didn’t think we could get it all. I just wanted to make sure I can just be happy and chill out.

No, I like that. This is the first time I’ve ever heard that — little tree, big Christmas. I like that though. Well, what’s your go-to when it comes to Christmas music? Like who are you playing first?

Oh man, son. [Sings “Jingle Bell Rock]. But we playing everything. Michael Jackson, we listening to that Mariah Carey. You know she gives the good Christmas vibes every year. Honestly, no funny shit, I listen to everybody, man. My house is old. My moms is 65, and pops is 66. So it’s just a vibe, you know.

Yeah, they got the best Christmas music to be honest with you.

You feel me! Word up. We was listening to the Isley Brothers, man. Before you know it, by the time it’s about six o’clock, Isley Brothers was on. Earth, Wind & Fire done got played!

[laughs] Then the James Brown creeps in.

The boy James Brown! Can’t forget the big stepper, the grandfather of this shit for sure.

Well, I’m curious. Since you have like a distinct voice, have you ever given any thought to like doing a Christmas song or Christmas album of your own? I’m thinking something like DMX’s “Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer” would be crazy.

I’ve thought about it, for sure. Definitely, after X put out that album for Christmas, I thought about something like that.

Gotcha. Well, what’s the word? Is it something that you think you’re gonna make eventually? 

Come on! Come on, man! I might just gotta put together right now. Drop a little something on the SoundCloud, take you back there real quick.

We can’t hoard everything, bro. We become hoarders and try to collect everything, thinking we’re like leveling up on material. But as a person, your mind and your mental is everything that you need.

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA – NOVEMBER 02: Desiigner attends the boohooMAN x SwaeLee Launch Party at Casita Hollywood on November 02, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Momodu Mansaray/Getty Images for boohooMAN)

One more Christmas-related question for you. Even with all of the fun and festive stuff that comes with Christmas, this time of the year can also be really like sad for a lot of people. When watching some of your recent interviews, I noticed how you were talking about taking care of your mental health following Takeoff’s passing and your homies’ passing around the same time. What are some mental health practices, tricks, or resources that you would suggest for people who may be struggling mentally during this holiday season?

My advice for people at this time is to really enjoy your life beyond these material ‘needs.’ Really enjoy what you got and what was originally given to you, and that’s your fresh air, your breath, your legs. Really take the time to embrace that, you know what I mean. If you’re around people, hopefully y’all share that y’all care about each other that day. 

Tell each other how much y’all care about each other that day because — like you said, bro — we lost people towards the end of the year. We lost brothers; we lost friends. And it’s real. People need to understand that we got to share these times. When you with your homie, explain how dope bro is. Tell your friend that they’re smart, you know. Because you don’t know when the last time we might be able to see each other. Even with us having this conversation, it’s the last time we gon’ say it with this type of energy again, so just really appreciate things in time. 

We can’t hoard everything, bro. We become hoarders and try to collect everything, thinking we’re like leveling up on material. And you gotta just level up with your relationships, your time, you. Understanding yourself, and that’s when you can just tap back into this realm and be like, ‘I want this, I want that.’ But as a person, your mind and your mental is everything that you need. 

Respect. It’s been great talking to you, and I appreciate you taking the time. One more question before you go. What do you want fans to know about Desiigner going into 2023?

Oh, man, we go up. We getting [sings] “Bigger and Bigger!” Word man, we getting bigger and bigger man. So stay tuned. We got merchandise dropping, new jackets keeping us warm outside in Desiigner fabric. We got restaurants, like I said, dropping. I got gaming streaming libraries that I’m trying to open up for the kids so they can stream there and link up there. You know, more places where young men can go and get our knowledge and stuff. I feel like our knowledge gets lost. I’m tryna find ways to for men to learn something without trying to incorporate violence so much.

Preciate you again for your time, man. It really has been great. Stay safe and enjoy the holidays. 

Heck yeah, word up. Peace!

Jacquees On “Sincerely For You,” Future As EP & Holiday Traditions For HNHH’s “12 Days Of Christmas”

Undeniably, Jacquees is preparing for a new season of his career. Years ago, he took social media by storm with his “King of R&B” declarations that caused quite a few conversations. However, Jacquees is more than just a viral moment or the subject of a hot take. The 28-year-old R&B crooner has been active in the industry for over a decade, and now, he’s back with a new album, Sincerely For You. The project not only hosts a look from Future, but the rapper also holds the title of executive producer.

Aside from Jacquees partnering with his fellow Georgia native, the star-studded cast of features are also standouts. Summer Walker, 6LACK, Tory Lanez, John P. Kee, and Dreezy help round out a project that Jacquees is hoping that is ushering in a new chapter of his life.

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“It’s all grown-man vibes. I’m 28 years old now,” he told HNHH exclusively for our 12 Days of Christmas series. “So, the conversations are just different for everything, for me. Even the lifestyle.
You know, you get older, you know, you stop doing a lot of the things that you was doing before. I feel like that’s kind of how I did it with my lifestyle and my music. And I believe that through records, you’ll be able to tell the growth into maturity.

In 2019, Jacquees delivered two projects: his sophomore studio album, King of R&B, and his holiday offering, Christmas in Decatur. The Cash Money and Republic Records star also gave us a mixtape in 2020 amid the pandemic. His new singles “Tipsy” and “Still That” certainly place the hitmaker’s talents on display, and it’s evident that Jacquees is authentically evolving in an ever-changing entertainment industry.

As he celebrates the arrival of Sincerely For You, Jacquees took a few minutes to chat with us about the album, a few holiday traditions, leading from the heart, and wanting to lock in a few award wins in 2023.

This interview has been slightly edited for clarity.

HNHH: Thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us today. It feels like you’ve been laying low, and now you’re back with a new record. Tell us about Sincerely For You and what fans can expect.

It has definitely been a minute. I ain’t dropped an album since, I think like, 2019. Sincerely For You, this my third album, executive produced by Future, of course. The process was crazy. We been working on it for like a year, over a year. We started on it last year in Miami. It’s just been a cool process. I got some dope producers on there.

I’m just bringing the sound that I know everybody wanna hear from me. I gave them a preview with “Tipsy” and “Still That.” It’s a lot more records to come that’s just gon’ be crazy. I know everybody gon’ love these records ‘cause I already know what my fans expect from me. So, I feel like I’m finna give them just that.

It’s interesting because Sincerely For You hosts features from 21 Savage, Tory Lanez, Summer Walker, Future… But you decided to lead with singles where you stand alone. Many artists often push a record with a featured track first. What were your thoughts on doing the opposite this time around?

I feel like features are cool, but I always feel like my fans, they always want me. You know what I’m sayin’? Of course, with features, it always helps because we collab fan bases, but a lot of the times, a lot of my stand-alone records be some of my best records. I just want the people to know, you know, I can do it alone.

But of course, I got some records, some features that’s crazy. We gon’ push them up through there [laughs]. But, for the most part, I really wanted to put those records out first because I feel like it’ll give people a good feel for the album and what to expect.

I read that this was a “new chapter” for you. What does that mean for you professionally as you usher in this new era?

It’s all grown-man vibes. I’m 28 years old now. I was 24, 25, when I dropped my last album. So, the conversations are just different for everything, for me. Even the lifestyle.

You know, you get older, you know, you stop doing a lot of the things that you was doing before. I feel like that’s kind of how I did it with my lifestyle and my music. And I believe that through records, you’ll be able to tell the growth into maturity.

Most definitely. Personal evolution and maturation can’t help but spill over into your professional life—if you’re dedicated to the growth.

Exactly.

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Let’s shift gears to the holidays. We’re in the thick of things with family dinners, trimming trees, and all the feel-good moments of the season. What traditions do you do with your loved ones this time of year?

Traditions that we do? Hm. We always get together at my mama house, always, for Christmas. You know we always—do we open gifts on Christmas Eve? No, we don’t open gifts on Christmas Eve, but we always have a big breakfast. My mama makes some of the best cheese grits in the world [laughs]. I’m really looking forward to that.

For the most part, a lot of times lately, we always go to like, Disney World for Christmas. We’ve been doing that lately. Going down to Orlando, celebrating at Disney World, just doing stuff like that.

That’s sweet! I need those cheese grits [laughs]. And during this time, people are casting visions for 2023. I stopped resolutions and instead try to learn something new for the year. Are there any resolutions or goals that you have for 2023?

I feel like everybody always says the same sh*t [laughs]. But for me, every year, I’m trying to be a better person, a better artist, a better human being, period. So, I think for me next year, my New Year’s resolution, besides all that, I just want to get some awards. I think that’s something that I’m trying to work hard toward. Get some awards, some recognition for my hard work. That’s something I look forward to.

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Definitely deserved. This is my last question, I ask everyone I interview. In the illusion that is the industry, people have expectations of who they think Jacquees is. The veil of celebrity often causes people to perceive artists in a certain way that’s not always a true reflection of who they are. What is something about the heart of Jacquees as a person that doesn’t always translate because people can’t see beyond who they think you are as a celebrity?

I don’t think people see how big my heart is. Of course, they see everything I say, you know, this and that, but I don’t think people really just see, like, the truth. The real me. I feel like, if they did, I’d get a lot more love. But that’s what I’m trying to show people now. Hopefully, they’ll see it.

But I feel like that’s something that people don’t really see a lot of me like…my heart is huge. Like, I do so much. Just off the strength of my heart, you know? But I feel like people will eventually see.

I appreciate that so much. Thank you so much for the time. Have a wonderful holiday season, and Happy New Year!

Thank you. And you, too! And make sure to get Sincerely For You on December 16th [laughs]!

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