Bob Myers

We don’t often receive intimate sit-down interviews from J. Cole, but the rapper took some time to chat with Bob Myers. The Dreamville giant appeared on the Golden State Warriors general manager’s Lead By Example podcast to discuss his life and career comprehensively. We’ve highlighted several takeaways from the conversation, but there was also an interesting moment when Cole revealed his envy for people living in normalcy. Undoubtedly, the chaos that comes with Rap stardom is intense.

However, the attention may become more overwhelming when you’re considered a GOAT or an icon. Myers and Cole discussed staying self-motivated when you’re sitting at the top of the hill of success. It can be a slippery slope for people like J. Cole, who consistently look for the next goal to reach. “You know what I’m envious of, too? To that point,” said Cole. “The way that I said is valid to someone who wants to live that life, but I also think another valid way to live is, yo. I’m envious of people who don’t have a strong desire or strong vision.”

J. Cole Envies Peace Of Mind

Cole added, “They live a peaceful life and an enjoyable life. And it’s like, ‘Yo, I go to work, I like my job, I like my salary. I’m not stupid rich, but I love my family, I come home. Life is amazing.’ And they live their life like that.” In a society where people chase fast cash and internet fame, Cole admires people who are comfortable with their surroundings. “I think that that is just as valid, I think they’re equally valid,” he said of both worlds. “And I don’t think, you know, I don’t think anyone should feel—’cause I’ve come across people that maybe… ‘Cause we live in a very like, we live in a society and a culture that pushes.”

“It’s like a hustle culture, work hard, boom boom boom. I think people could feel almost guilty or insufficient for not having some great dream to dream. And I’m like, no. It’s a blessing to be satisfied, to be at peace, to be content with life.” This is a conversation you don’t want to miss, as Cole speaks on his love of basketball, painful lessons learned in life, and more. Check it out above.

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J Cole doesn’t frequently sit down with the media but this week, he gave Warriors GM Bob Myers an exclusive interview. The North Carolina native joined Myers on the latest episode of the Lead By Example podcast where he shed light on his childhood, exposure to cigarettes, parenthood, and his careers in both music and basketball. As one of the few rappers who’ve leaped from music to basketball, J Cole broke down his work ethic and his goal-driven personality.

When it came to his basketball career, J Cole told Myers that he lacked discipline during his teen years. Though he knew he had the talent, he explained that he didn’t necessarily tap into his full potential. “I loved basketball so much that my delusion was high. So to get cut [from the high school team] was a gut punch,” he said. From there, J Cole told Bob Myers that people like Steph Curry and Allen Iverson needed that bit of “delusion” to motivate them toward the top.

J Cole Tells Bob Myers About The Dumbest Thing He’s Done

Though J Cole is noticeably one of the few rappers who doesn’t often partake in drinking or smoking, he admitted to Bob Myers that he picked up a cigarette habit as a child. “6 years old, I was smoking cigarettes, regularly, around the neighborhood,” he recalled with a smirk on his face. J. Cole explained to Myers that his mother allowed him to roam the streets as she did when she was younger, though she wasn’t entirely aware of what he was up to at the time.

J Cole explained to Myers that he would hang around his older brother’s friends, trying to find a way to fit in. “To them, it’s funny – they’re 10 themselves – so it’s funny for themselves. Nobody’s really worried about me. They’re 10 and smoking cigarettes,” he recalled. “This is going on for 2-3 weeks. One day, I’m down the street at a house where it was happening at and my brother comes up and I asked one of our homeboys in the neighborhood, ‘You got any cigarettes?’”

Rapper’s Mom & Brother React

As his brother told him to shut up and downplayed that his 6-year-old brother even knew what cigarettes were, J Cole recalled the older guys confirming that he smokes. Though he said he’s grateful in retrospect, he said his brother’s decision to tell their mom felt like “treason,” though he already planned to deny it. Cole proceeded to go to the backyard where he proceeded to smoke cigarettes before his brother came 20 minutes later because their mother wanted to see him.

Cole told Myers that he felt “no worry at all” to see his mother. When his mom confronted him about smoking cigarettes, she asked him to speak so she could smell the scent of cigarettes. “This was the life-changing moment right here. I saw her face. When she smelled cigarettes on my brother… her face was like heartbroken, it was disbelief, it was… crushed,” he recalled. “It hit her. I’m the youngest of two. Her baby is A) capable of smoking cigarettes and B) lying dead to her face about it.” He said that he likely got a beating but that particular moment turned him into a “self-correcter.” “That was the first time that I became aware like, ‘Oh, my actions can hurt someone else,’” he said. Check out J. Cole’s first interview with Bob Myers above.