In some alternate Hip-Hop multiverse, Joe Budden and DMX had a rap battle. In this current one, Budden attempted to get it going on the set of Belly.
Joe popped up on the Flip Da Script podcast and revealed how he saw X shooting a scene in New Jersey. At that moment, Budden saw it as a time to put his skills to the test.
“I used to say I battled DMX, but that wasn’t really a battle,” Joe Budden said. “I was battling, he wasn’t battling”
Budden would state that DMX would eventually leave to complete a scene and didn’t drop a single bar. The attempt did catch the eye of Swizz Beatz, who wanted to put Budden in a group with Cassidy and Drag-On, but it fell through.
Joe Budden doesn’t think the subgenre of Hip Hop, Drill Rap will live long with law enforcement blaming the New York sound as violence increases in the city. During a recent episode of The Joe Budden Podcast,Budden said the genre has already brought too much attention from authorities and they’re already trying to get rid of it, like New York City Mayor Eric Adams.
“You drill n*****s got the shortest of windows,” Budden stated. “That sh*t bout over. Y’all can go keep dancing with Eric Adams if you want. It’s over, buddy, in the next five, six years.”
Budden continued, “The writing is on the wall, and that’s government-issued writing. That’s not Joe. That’s government-issued writing. Don’t start hitting me, mad at me. I’m just telling you what I’m looking at.”
Back in April authorities used drill music videos to track down their subjects for arrests.The NYPD did a sweep, arresting over 20 alleged gang members in the Bronx. The police dubbed the investigation “Operation Drilly” and recovered 18 guns.
Several known rappers from the dill scene have had run-ins with the police like Kay Flock and Dougie B., while others have lost their lives.
Watch a clip of the conversation below.
Joe Budden says drill rap will be over with in 5-6 years
Drake might have dropped the most divisive album for a hip-hop artist since Kanye dropped Yeezus in 2013. Both albums signaled a musical shift in the artist’s career and public reaction was split upon both albums’ release. However, over time, Yeezus has grown on many people, with the sound of hip-hop music having changed so drastically in the last decade. Only time will tell with Honestly, Nevermind.
Drizzy’s shift in sound is nothing new as he’s released songs like the ones found on his recent album in the past with “Passionfruit” off of More Life, and “One Dance” off of Views. However, this shift in sound has sparked conversations about the future of rap music.
On a recent episode of the Joe Budden Podcast, Joe called Long Beach MC, Vince Staples where the two discussed if Drake’s newest album “pushes us closer to the elimination of rap music.”
“You think Drake putting out a dance album gets us closer to the elimination of rap music as a whole?” Budden asked.
Vince responded, talking about how his 2017 album, Big Fish Theory, received backlash from a lot of fans because of its experimental sound, and how eventually, rap will eventually fade away “because the internet pushes everything into the same bubble.’
“Music has always been very visual,” Staples responded. “When I think about artists, visual things pop up… Michael Jackson it’s the moonwalk and 2Pac it’s a lot of aesthetic things. Of course, it’s the music, but the thing is we’re visual people”
Vince added, “When you think about where music is headed, everything is Instagram, everything looks the same, moves the same, dresses the same and talks the same. The genre sh*t is going to have to go out the window eventually. It’s too hard to separate culture because the internet has kinda pushed everything into the same little bubble.”
You can watch the full episode below. Their conversation starts around the 1:57:00 mark.
There’s a new Drake album out and as usual, it’s dominating the discourse online as fans parse what it means for pop culture at large. However, this time, there’s a whole new angle for that discussion, as Honestly, Nevermind eschews Drake’s usual mopey R&B and passive-aggressive raps in favor of a genre experiment in the vein of house music alongside executive producer Black Coffee. And as usual, Joe Budden has thoughts, which he shared on his podcast along with call-in guest Vince Staples.
While Joe wondered whether the album meant the elimination of rap music as a whole (because Joe Budden, again, is not a journalist and has no real frame of reference for such things), Vince’s response was more measured as he pointed out that such genre-hopping projects are nothing new in hip-hop — not even for Vince himself. “I did that in 2017,” he reminded the host. “N****s was on me… That Big Fish Theory, n****s was mad at that. ‘What’s up with this n****?’”
Vince expanded on his views (no pun intended), comparing music to Instagram: “Everything looks the same, everything moves the same, everyone dresses the same, everyone talks the same,” he explained. “So the genre sh*t is gonna have to go out the window eventually. It’s too hard to separate culture because the internet is kinda pushing everything in the same little bubble.”
He’s got a point: Besides himself, a number of artists have blended genres including dance genres like house and techno into hip-hop, with some artists distancing themselves from the “rapper” label altogether. However, the thing that hasn’t gone away is rapping as a lyrical style, and there are still plenty of artists — arguably way more of them, to be honest, who release music primarily in that mode regardless of trends. And considering some of the responses to Drake’s album, it doesn’t look like hip-hop fans were quite ready to make the switch — which didn’t stop it from topping Apple Music’s Dance chart on release day.
Basically, no rappers should be restricted solely to rapping or making music according to popular trends, but rap as a genre probably isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
You can watch the full episode of The Joe Budden Podcast above.
On Thursday, Joe Budden took to Instagram to criticize New York City strip clubs for not hiring Black strippers. Budden said that the summer is coming up and the clubs will be impacted by their lack of diversity.
“NY strip clubs, not only are you not hiring Black women, but you’re purposely hiring the SAME exact girl.. Your promoter having a type is gonna lose y’all money this Summer. This is disgusting (not the girls, the optics),” Budden wrote via Instagram,” Budden said in his post.
In now-deleted tweets, on Friday, Cardi B sided with Budden’s comments and shared her own personal experiences with discrimination during her time as a stripper.
“Funny thing [you] say that because when I was a dancer certain clubs wouldn’t let me work on ‘Latin Nights’ cause apparently I didn’t look Spanish enough wit my braids! I even spoke about strip club and colorism b4,” Cardi tweeted.
Joe let me call in to share why I said what I said ! Cardi being sensitive again pic.twitter.com/KoVI8roQsG
However, this is not the first time Cardi has been vocal about the discrimination she saw while stripping in NYC. During a 2016 interview with DJ Vlad, Cardi spoke on the increase of “lighter skin” girls being hired over “darker skin” girls.
Some users came for Cardi in the comments, bringing up her and Kim Kardashian as the standard for desirability for most men. Cardi then brought up how certain clubs would not hire her to work on Latin night because they thought she didn’t look Spanish enough.
“Funny thing u say that because when I was a dancer certain clubs wouldn’t let me work on “Latin nights” cause apparently I didn’t look Spanish enough with my braids! I even spoke about strip club & colorism b4,” Cardi said.
Cardi B schooled Joe Budden after the podcaster speculated about apparent colorism in the New York strip club scene. Cardi agreed that strip clubs do favor a certain flavor and it’s not just black women who get rejected. Cardi B took to Twitter to chime in on the viral discussion of colorism occurring in strip […]
