Pigeons & Planes Shares ‘See You Next Year’ Album, Executive Produced By Mike Dean

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Throughout Pigeons & Planes’ history, we’ve had a lot of bad ideas. Once we tried to set up an interview with Danny Brown while he was holding a sloth (he doesn’t know this), before learning that there are all kinds of legal guardrails when it comes to handling sloths in the state of New York. Another time we rented an Airbnb and decided to shoot music videos on the slightly questionable roof. If someone had been injured, there’s a chance P&P would not exist today. And then, of course, there’s the video series idea we had called Pizza From Behind (I promise it’s not what it sounds like), but we won’t get into that today.

The point is, we’ve thought about making a lot of things that never saw the light of day. That’s what happens when you come up in the blog era and realize that corporate interests, copyright laws, and shifts in technology can change everything at any given moment. You get antsy, you accept that nothing lasts forever, and out of sheer panic that your time is near, you start vomiting up absurd ideas under the guise of productive brainstorming.

A Pigeons & Planes compilation always felt like one of those absurd ideas. We’d talk about making an album at least once every year, but it never happened. For years, we’ve been a small team making music-related content for the internet, curating playlists, and producing concerts—officially releasing a project of original music always felt out of reach.

Over the last two years, that panic turned into a realization that the world is going to shit and we’ve got to try to make some of these far-fetched ideas happen. Naturally, our first instinct was Pizza From Behind. It’s gotta be Pizza From Behind. We shared that idea with a few people, and their reactions were a clear signal: “No, the world isn’t ready. Make the album.”

Mike Dean and Redveil, Photo by MELL G
Mike Dean and Wallice, photo by Nicole-Busch

And so, we finally decided to make an album. We partnered with Big.Ass.Kids and ADA, and we started reaching out to artists we love asking for songs. Surprisingly, most said yes. Then we posted about it on Instagram before we even had any music. We said, “We’re making an album!” And Mike fucking Dean commented on it: “You need an executive producer to finish it.”

We laughed, because obviously it was a joke, but soon after we’re on a Zoom with Mike Dean and it turned into not-a-joke. Mike Dean agreed to executive produce the project.

Months later, we’ve actually got a full album and it’s out on all platforms today. We’ve got incredible new songs from Teezo Touchdown, Terry Presume, Redveil, Fana Hues, EKKSTACY, Wallice, Dreamer Isioma, Brevin Kim, Ben Reilly, Baird, and Sash—you can read more about each of them here. The artists all got in sessions with Mike Dean and he mixed and mastered the whole thing. I’m not one who appreciates the intricacies of mixing and mastering as much as I probably should, but I can tell you this: Mike Dean is a genius and he made this whole project sound bigger, better, and more cohesive. He also turned out to be the perfect fit for a Pigeons & Planes project—he’s open-minded, down to earth, and his love for music is obvious in everything he does.

Mike Dean and EKKSTACY, photo by MELL G
Photo by MELL G

HK designed the cover. It was another shot in the dark but fuck it, we had Mike Dean involved, so why not reach out to HK? Years ago, before we knew we could make an album, we made a SoundCloud mixtape. This was back in the day before Brockhampton was a famous boyband, and HK designed the cover to that project. So having him back for See You Next Year is a full-circle moment.

The album is called See You Next Year for a lot of reasons—some are obvious, others not so much, and it’s all probably better left unsaid. But one reason we liked this title is because it sets us up to make this an annual event. Who knows if we’ll do that. As previously mentioned, we think about a lot of things that never happen, but we really hope that this is an exception. Making this album was a labor of love, long days, and frequent reminders that we are so lucky to do work that involves so many talented creatives. We have many more stories to tell because of this album, and we’ll get to those soon.

For now, here is the very first P&P compilation album, See You Next Year. Thank you to all of the artists for being a part of it, and to everyone who brought this project to life.

See you next year.

Photo by MELL G
Photo by MELL G

Terry Presume: The ‘See You Next Year’ Interview

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Fill in the blank: Terry Presume is most likely to______?
Most Likely to invent a new piece of technology that reshapes society.

Where were you one year ago today? What’s changed? 
I was living in Nashville, TN making music. I am now living in Florida and a lot less depressed.

What’s been the biggest lesson you’ve learned about yourself creatively in the last 12 months?
Slow is fast, taking time with my art to craft out the vision I want to introduce to the world.

What’s been the biggest risk you’ve taken in the last year?
Being around a group of people I absolutely don’t know and allowing them to handle my musical creations, they’re like my babies.

What do you hope these next 12 months mean for you and your career? 
Prosperity and longevity.

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What is it that you want to see in the world next year?
More peace, less chaos.

If you could change your name to anything for a year, what would it be? 
LordyMcGordy Ornor Mgorshky.

What’s the biggest goal on your bucket list in the next year?
Financial advancements and literacy that’ll enable more creative control and freedom, I want to create a world within a world that people can solely get from me.

What’s the biggest secret you’ve kept this year?
Wouldn’t be a great secret keeper If I told y’all that now would I?

What was your favorite year ever and why?
2016, cause Frank Ocean released Blonde.

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EKKSTACY: The ‘See You Next Year’ Interview

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What’s changed for you in the last year?
Everything has changed for me in the last year. I went from being a bum and working at Amazon to hanging out with models on tour counting money. I’m different now!!

What’s been the biggest lesson you’ve learned about yourself creatively in the last 12 months?
I still work best alone and with my friends. Studios aren’t for me. Although I did meet some producers in LA that I really like. 

What’s been the biggest risk you’ve taken in the last year?
I used to be really scared of performing but I toured for months and months anyways. I guess that was a risk?

What do you hope these next 12 months mean for you and your career?
I want to see my name everywhere. I want to see my face everywhere. That’s all I really care about anymore.

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What’s the biggest goal on your bucket list in the next year?
I don’t know. I don’t set goals but I’m tryna go platinum, though. I said I would love to move to Berlin in a few months, so that needs to happen.

Looking back, what was your favorite year ever and why?
2021 and 2022 have been my favorite years so far. I’m doing a lot of cool shit. It’s hard and it’s lonely and it’s a lot but it’s also a lot of fun. 

What’s the biggest secret you’ve kept this year?
I don’t really keep secrets. I tell my friends everything. I guess Misery has been finished forever. I haven’t told anybody that. 

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Brevin Kim: The ‘See You Next Year’ Interview

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Fill in the blanks: Brevin Kim is most likely to______?
Cal: Revolutionize. We’re blending a lot of genres and just making something that I feel not a lot of other people are making.  We’re the most likely to pioneer a new sound.

What’s changed for you in the last year?
Cal:
It’s tough to answer on the spot. But for me, right off the top, I would say I feel like we’re finally gaining some respect that we felt we deserved for being a part of pioneering certain sounds. I feel like this is the first year where all these years of work that sometimes feel pointless are finally starting to pay off. I see that people are recognizing us and that feels good. 

What’s been the biggest lesson you’ve learned about yourself creatively in the last 12 months?
Cal:
You gotta be patient. When we first signed a couple years ago, we had no idea what the music industry was like. You still gotta put the work in and can’t just expect things to happen. Above that, just be confident in your music. Because we’ve had times where we start to doubt ourselves. And when that happens, the listeners doubt too, because they can feel it. So if you don’t believe in it, nobody else is going to believe in it. 

What’s been the biggest risk you’ve taken in the last year?
Bren:
Always just sticking to what we do creatively. Sometimes the music we make can be a little too abrasive but I’d rather be different than just try to be regular mainstream artists that go by the numbers. So sticking to what we do, whether people need to catch up on our type of music or not. 

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What is it that you want to see in the world next year?
Cal: Less mass shootings and people getting along. Less haters on the internet. Everything’s so negative lately. Everybody just hates each other. It’s getting exhausting.

What’s the biggest goal on your bucket list in the next year?
Cal:
Continue gaining that respect. 

Looking back, what was your favorite year ever and why?
Cal:
7th grade, back in ‘08. I think he it’s when you first start liking girls and you’re not doing drugs or drinking yet, but it’s a great time. I miss the days when we didn’t know what rent and taxes were. Anxiety didn’t exist.

What’s the biggest secret you’ve kept this year?
Bren:
This project! It was so hard not to post a picture of us going to Mike Dean’s house or a video of us working with him. Now we finally can. That’s about the only secret I’ve kept this year.

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Fana Hues: The ‘See You Next Year’ Interview

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Fill in the blank: Fana Hues is most likely to ______?
Star in a film. I want to go and expand on my hues and really get into my acting bag and fully dive into that part of storytelling. I really be out here acting. I’ve been doing it for years and years but I haven’t gotten my one film yet. So it’s only a matter of time.

What’s changed for you in the last year?
Access, I’ve had way more access this year to resources in order to execute my visions.

What’s been the biggest lesson you’ve learned about yourself creatively in the last 12 months?
I don’t know anything at all. I’m still learning.

What’s been the biggest risk you’ve taken in the last year?
Packing up my stuff and putting it in storage and just going on tour. Breaking my lease for the house, that was a goddamn risk. I was like, “Dang, am I really gonna figure this out while I’m on the road?” That was a risk.

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What do you hope these next 12 months mean for you and your career?
I hope that next year, I continue to solidify my position in music in general. I want to experiment more. And I want to free myself of the box that I put myself in creatively sometimes. That’s what I’m hoping for next year, for sure.

What is it that you want to see in the world next year?
I would like to see people start treating others as human beings and not have everything be so transactional.

What’s the biggest goal on your bucket list in the next year?
This debut album. It sounds like, “Oh, of course.” But it really is. I’ve been planning this debut album, conceptualizing it for like six years now. So I am, I’m ready for that.

Looking back, what was your favorite year ever and why?
I would say 2012 was probably the best year for me. Growth-wise and it’s when I started really tapping into my voice. I was 16, you know?  It absolutely still sticks with me. That summer particularly. Channel Orange had just come out. 

What’s the biggest secret you’ve kept this year?
I’m really tryna think. What’s a secret that I kept this year? I don’t know, I have no secrets. 

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