Lil Duval
Fans Debate Whether Kodak Black Is As Lyrical As Kendrick Lamar After A Comedian’s Tweet Insisting He Is
This may sound harsh, but it’s meant with absolutely no malice: Lil Duval is a menace and he must be stopped. Whenever the comedian tweets comparing various figures in hip-hop, complete chaos breaks out among rap fans on Twitter as they end up debating the merits of his off-the-cuffing (and likely trolling) analyses for days on end. Previously, he noted similarities between the music video styles of DaBaby and Ludacris, prompting a days-long discussion that led to the rappers themselves weighing in.
This week, though, he made an even more surprising assertion, comparing two rappers who couldn’t be more different on the surface: Pulitzer Prize winner Kendrick Lamar and the frequently problematic Kodak Black. “Kodak really up there with Kendrick lyrically but y’all don’t wanna hear it tho,” he tweeted yesterday morning. It didn’t take long for Rap Twitter residents to get riled up, chiming in with arguments both for and against Duval’s statement.
Kodak really up there with Kendrick lyrically but y’all don’t wanna hear it tho
— lil duval (@lilduval) December 7, 2021
The two rappers do share some commonalities. Both were selected for XXL‘s Freshman Class (Kendrick in 2011, Kodak in 2016), and both frequently address the harsh conditions young Black men often face in the US, from poverty and violence to the institutionalization of the prison system. However, they’ve also had wildly different trajectories; while Kendrick has gone from government assistance in Compton, California to be one of hip-hop’s most critically-acclaimed and commercially successful artists (see above, re: Pulitzer), Kodak has faced a number of legal issues and pop culture controversies for everything from illegally purchased guns to sexual assault.
Kodak himself seemingly weighed in as well, writing in a comment about the post on Instagram, “I understand it be controversial Shit behind me but I’ll appreciate it if y’all just worry bout me Fa my talent & not da other shit on social media !!! Thank You”
#KodakBlack reacts to #LilDuval saying he’s lyrically “up There” with #KendrickLamar pic.twitter.com/Vk0t7QQ5id
— No Jumper (@nojumper) December 7, 2021
Check out more responses to Lil Dvual’s unexpected comparison below.
kendrick fye…but people got him on a pedestal…like he’s the greatest and that’s a goddamn lie pic.twitter.com/ToihS77Ynf
— THE VIBE (@juice_803) December 7, 2021
Niggaz smoking bath salts https://t.co/KGvQGhDuxO
— Might Go Out Like Dark Skin Jermaine (@3LMthree) December 8, 2021
I get high and tweet bull shit too. But I ain’t never been this high. https://t.co/O7OAA7CpnA
— BDE Will (@To_Be_Trill) December 8, 2021
No the fuck he ain’t, but this tweet did numbers. https://t.co/aRX8Imaenz
— Yeah. Okay. (@KarlousM) December 8, 2021
Exactly, I don’t want to hear it . https://t.co/qCIDXo550k
— Dedee (@thoughtfulbae) December 7, 2021
He’s right, I don’t wanna hear it lmao pic.twitter.com/YRTa4vIQ0T
— Joey (@gothamcityrap) December 7, 2021
Lil duval said kodak up there w/ kendrick and as a kendrick and yak fan, I agree.
— KenyaBenya (@Kenn0626) December 7, 2021
Imma tell yall like this. If yall think Kodak and Kendrick are on the same level or even COMPARABLE as musicians or even lyricists, I got one bit of advice:
STAY OFF THE CRACK ROCK!!!
— フリさま (FOOLY UZUI) (@ChrissaSJE) December 8, 2021
DaBaby Admits His Videos Were Inspired By Ludacris But Says The Comparison Is ‘Too Commonly Used’
Last week, DaBaby and Ludacris trended for the better part of a day when comedian Lil Duval compared the two, calling DaBaby “this generation’s Ludacris.” While fans on social media debated whether the two artists really were analogues of each other or not, DaBaby prepared for his overstuffed BET Awards performance and Ludacris went to space in the latest Fast & Furious film. Fortunately, Billboard was able to get ahold of DaBaby on the BET Awards red carpet and ask him about it, giving him an opportunity to set the record straight.
Although DaBaby didn’t outright reject the premise, he was careful to point out how limited — and limiting — it is. “I feel like that’s too commonly used,” he said. “I think people use that too lightly. I was inspired by Ludacris’ creativity with his music videos. [I was inspired] by a lot of people. Not only people like Ludacris but people like Nelly. I mean, everybody. I feel like as the generations unfolded, people from every era was inspired by somebody from the era before them. Even when it boils down to 50 Cent, Eminem, and Mystikal, everybody’s videos used to be crazy. Busta Rhymes’ videos used to be crazy [too]. So I definitely was inspired by Ludacris, Busta Rhymes, and several other artists with their music videos.”
DaBaby, who first broke out with the comedic video for his song “Walker Texas Ranger,” might be onto something there. If nothing else, he’s far from the first younger artist to take inspiration from his forebears; Uproxx even has a whole show about it. From Busta to Eminem to Missy, modern artists have been looking to many of the icons of days past to inspire their own standout visuals because if you’re going to take from anyone, you’ve got to take from the best.
Read DaBaby’s full interview with Billboard here and watch his BET Awards performance of “Ball If I Want To” here.
Ludacris Trends On Twitter As Fans Find A Comedian’s Comparison To DaBaby… Ludicrous
A comedian’s comparison of a pair of rappers on Twitter has fans debating whether he’s right or his suggestion is just… ludicrous. When Lil Duval, best known for his appearances on MTV shows like Guy Code and his 2018 Snoop Dogg-featuring hit “Smile Bitch (Living My Best Life),” asserted that North Carolina rapper DaBaby could be considered analogous to Atlanta rapper Ludacris, his tweet sparked the heated debate that saw some fans arguing about the two MCs’ relative status and whether or not Duval had a point.
Da baby is this generation Ludacris
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 24, 2021
You hating if u say da baby can’t rap https://t.co/vb7ArmkP0r
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 24, 2021
As usual, the range of thoughts on the subject led to a spike in people tweeting about Luda, who’s currently on a media tour promoting his appearance in F9, the latest installment of the Fast And Furious film franchise premiering this weekend. He also recently made a bit of a resurgence musically, popping up on Conway The Machine’s single “Scatter Brain” with fellow ATLien JID and on Justin Bieber’s remix of “Peaches” with Snoop Dogg.
Me when I saw Lil Duval called Da Baby the Ludacris of this generation. pic.twitter.com/kdpy4uqmyq
— Chris Williamson (@CWilliamson44) June 24, 2021
Meanwhile, DaBaby is also set to have a big weekend, as he’s nominated for seven 2021 BET Awards at the ceremony airing this Sunday. He was also the subject of another heated exchange with Megan Thee Stallion following a promotional tweet of his song with Tory Lanez, recorded before the infamous shooting incident that left Tory persona non grata with most hip-hop fans.
Twitter blocking every comparison of DaBaby to Ludacris.
Luda had 10x the hits & cultural impact DaBaby will ever have…pic.twitter.com/ZfxvcdqbaM
— alex (@AlexUlrichh) June 24, 2021
Fans are always naturally going to feel a way, and of course, many of the responses are split along generational lines. Incidentally, Duval isn’t the first to make the comparison, nor is the comparison as out-of-pocket as some fans tend to believe; consider their comedic videos, witty wordplay, and AK-47 cadences and the comparison doesn’t feel all that wild. No matter the terms of engagement, though, fans are going to project their own feelings on the position being argued, something Duval himself pointed out as the debate trended. You can see more responses below.
Y’all suck at debating without emotions
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 24, 2021
I can’t believe some of y’all think da baby can’t rap. Nigga be snapping to me and he street. Fuck else y’all want?
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 24, 2021
Come on nih y’all hating if y’all don’t see it pic.twitter.com/yzyYosiNmC
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 24, 2021
So this ain’t something da baby would do? pic.twitter.com/5fLJxsXDeX
— lil duval (@lilduval) June 24, 2021
He out his mind putting Da baby and ludacris in the same sentence pic.twitter.com/GjPyoPn9ww
— Ni_Mo (@Just_Bein_Kita) June 24, 2021
Ludacris, sweetie, I’m so sorry… https://t.co/HiNS6EUpsu
— Actively Gay (@angryblkhoemo) June 24, 2021
Niggas woke up and decided to disrespect Luda for no reason omg https://t.co/i6rCcE3Jbc
— MUSE By MS (@MuseByMS) June 24, 2021
No, Luda had range, variety. DaBaby make the exact same song every time with a little tweak to the beat. https://t.co/Hh4mChiEKV
— Ocean Drive Slim (@Simply_KAS) June 24, 2021
That’s disrespectful to Luda https://t.co/bgF8h6Bo31
— Cool’n (@MoneymanRegg) June 24, 2021
I can’t get over how awful this tweet is…Luda had more flows in 1 song than Baby has in his entire discography https://t.co/cArfTxtI49
— (@KnuthDaddy) June 24, 2021
This shows how under-appreciated Luda is. Like ppl really forgot good an individual was at their craft because they haven’t heard or seen nothing new since they moved to better things in life. Luda is one of the south most lyrical dudes ever. Not knockin Da Baby but he’s no Luda https://t.co/ODaO9VPn3K
— Lakers home resting for 21-22 season (@CurrentLoud) June 24, 2021
Visually I see where u going but…. Luda has classics under his belt da baby has the same cadence in every damn song https://t.co/ljCxvDoKjV
— (@Dutch_da_Gr8) June 24, 2021