Bun B Confesses That UGK Rejected “Big Pimpin’ 2” With Jay-Z

“Big Pimpin’” is easily one of the best and biggest crossover hits between the East Coast and the South. As such, a sequel sounds like a fantastic idea, but one half of UGK recently explained why they didn’t think it was very feasible. Moreover, Bun B recently joined Math Hoffa’s My Expert Opinion podcast alongside Statik Selektah to talk about, among other things, their new album Trillstatik 3. At one point during their conversation, they eventually got around to “Big Pimpin’.” The Houston legend explained that the duo’s label, Jive Records, wanted them to do “Big Pimpin’ 2,” but succinctly pointed as to why it wouldn’t have been the best idea for financial and creative reasons.

“UGK was [the late Pimp C]’s baby, and he would put his heart and soul into it,” Bun B remarked. “And he didn’t wanna do all of that to get to this point and do one song with somebody and have his legacy perverted. That was the way he looked at it. When we were getting ready to do the next album, the label, Jive, was like, ‘Let’s do a ‘Big Pimpin’ 2.’ Let’s buy a Jay-Z verse, let’s buy a beat from Timbaland, let’s get a video from Hype [Williams], and let’s do it again, boys!’

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Then, the Trill Burgers boss revealed that their first collaboration already sunk them in some debt with the label. “I was like, ‘If I don’t do a song with JAY-Z and Timbaland, do I still get a Hype Williams video?’” Bun B elaborated. “It was never, ‘No.’ They were like, ‘Why wouldn’t you want that?’ What? Besides [the] $2.5 million in the hole from the first song we recorded?” Also, he theorized that Pimp C wouldn’t have considered a Hov verse as “equal value to him” if they proposed a song-for-song trade agreement.

In fact, regarding these Southern pioneers’ history, Pimp apparently didn’t want to do “Big Pimpin’” at first out of respect for Tupac Shakur. Eventually, he and Jay squashed this dispute across a dinner table, but perhaps some feelings keeled over for a sequel. Either way, we’re glad that the original remains intact and didn’t ruin itself with a second attempt at lightning in a bottle. On that note, keep checking in with HNHH for the latest news and updates on Bun B, UGK, and Jay-Z.
Long Live Pimp C.

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Pimp C Initially Thought Jay-Z Was Rapping About Masturbating On “Big Pimpin’”

A misunderstanding over one of Jay-Z’s lyrics on “Big Pimpin‘” allegedly played a role in Pimp C being hesitant to appear on the iconic track. Roc-A-Fella A&R Kyambo “Hip-Hop” Joshua recalled the story during a recent appearance on the R.O.A.D. Podcast.

He explained that Pimp C thought that Jay was referring to masturbating when he rapped, “Let ’em play with the dick in the truck.”

VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA – APRIL 27: Jay-Z performs onstage at SOMETHING IN THE WATER – Day 2 on April 27, 2019 in Virginia Beach City. (Photo by Brian Ach/Getty Images for Something in the Water)

However, Pimp C’s first issue with appearing on “Big Pimpin’” was his respect for 2Pac. The late legend’s death was still recent at the time they recorded the song.

“But once he got past that, he thought Jay was saying that he was playing with his dick in the truck,” Joshua recalled. “So he’s like, ‘Man, I’m not getting on no song with another man talkin’ bout playing with hisself in the truck! Young Hop, you my boy, but what you tryna have me doin’, man?’ He said, ‘That’s like career suicide!’”

From there, they clarified that Jay was referring to female passengers who would be in the car with him.

“He said, ‘I could see that. That makes sense now.’ Then he kinda got closer to doing it,” Joshua added.

Jay-Z was eventually able to convince UGK to appear on “Big Pimpin’.” He included the song on his fourth studio album, Vol. 3… Life and Times of S. Carter. The song was a massive success, peaking at No. 18 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart. It also helped propel the album to triple platinum status in the time since its release.

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A Resurfaced Jay-Z Quote From 2010 Has Fans Debating The Lyrics From ‘Big Pimpin’

Jay-Z fans on Twitter are debating one of the rapper’s biggest hits a tweet from The Source‘s account asserted that Jay “regrets” making “Big Pimpin’,” the third single from his 1999 album Vol. 3… Life And Times Of S. Carter. The Source‘s tweet linked to an article on the magazine’s website which interpreted a quote from a 2010 Wall Street Journal interview to mean that Jay took a negative view of his old song. However, upon realizing the quote in question was over a decade old, fans quickly decried the article and the tweet as “clickbait.”

However, that didn’t stop the tweet from generating conversation, as Jay’s fans chimed in on his imagined reaction to his own lyrics, as well on The Source‘s out-of-context reporting. Some compared Jay’s older lyrics to his new ones, stating they preferred when Jay was “Big Pimpin’” alongside Bun B and Pimp C of UGK to the Jay-Z who makes deals with the NFL and raps about his big business moves like selling Tidal to Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.

Others agreed with the sentiment that Jay’s view must have changed over time. As one pointed out, since 2000, Jay has gotten married, had three kids, and changed his outlook on everything from fashion to his role in politics. Some thought “cancel culture” had finally come for him.

And while the quote in question is still difficult to put into context — after all, it’s just a written quote, and Jay’s notoriously sarcastic in interviews, besides his rapper’s penchant for using metaphorical language to describe a point of view that can get lost in translation in a different format — it’s still proof positive that Jay is still one of the most foremost figures in hip-hop. See more of the polarized responses to Jay’s old quote below, and read the full interview here.