Eminem Vs. Black Thought Debate Lights Up Twitter

A recent debate sparked by a Beats, Rhymes & Lists on Twitter has users sounding off about their picks. The post reads, “Who’s the stronger lyricist? Eminem vs Black Thought.” Some of the discussion was polarized, with users fiercely defending their pick, while other users just couldn’t seem to choose. Many users cited the different strengths and weaknesses of the two artists, claiming that they’re both better than each other at different things.

One user siding with Black Thought writes, “It comes down to how much you weigh the values of what is being said with how cleverly those things are being said.” They add, “For me it’s Thought. Craft, content, and consistency. But I so benefit from being 43 and having heard a lot more hip hop. No disrespect to Eminem.”

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Some Users Claim They’re “Not Even Close”

Another cites the marketability of Eminem, writing, “Slim is a better star. More marketable, more latchable because of the audience. Maybe a better talent scout as well.” The user claims, “Thought though, actually spits circles around him when it comes to content.” Another Black Thought die-hard writes, “Black Thought and if you don’t think so explain to me how is Eminem better and I don’t wanna hear nothing about numbers I’m talking pure rap skills. Eminem hard but he not better than Thought, imo old Em was harder than Em of today.”

Eminem supporters also took to the comments to defend their pick. One writes, “Em. Black Thought is Dope, but his rhyme schemes are not as unique as Em’s. His work on the Roots albums were good, but some of it wasn’t that complex. Em has better storytelling tracks and more double entendres.” Another says, “Eminem, but Black Thought for knowledge and deep storylines, except for ‘Stan.’ ‘Stan’ was extremely well put together IMO. But black thought has a hole catalog of shit that has meaning over incredible wordplay. And tell me one person who is still not in love with. ‘You Got Me.’” A different user says, “Talking strictly skill set, Black thought doesn’t come close to Em. The only issue with Em however, is that we don’t always like the subject matter. And the issue with rap fans is that they stay defensive and can’t be objective about anything.”

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J.I.D Believes Fans “Don’t Really Care” About Lyricists, Only “Microwave” Rap

His carefully crafted bars have made J.I.D a standout among his Rap peers, but he doesn’t believe lyricism holds the same weight as it once did. Debates regarding lyricism run rampant through Hip Hop as artists argue about it being respected in the culture. We’ve seen people take digs at “Mumble Rap” while others dismiss “conscious rappers” who pen witty rhymes. J.I.D shared his thoughts while chatting with the Throwing Fits podcast, and according to him, Hip Hop isn’t concerned with lyricists. His most recent album, The Forever Story, was praised for poetic stylings that not every artist can master.

The group was discussing wordplay when the Rap star chimed in. “I got a weird theory about how music is right now. In the blog era with those superstars like Drake. They came up in the blog era, and they came up in a time [when] you ain’t see anybody rapping like that. They weren’t like, it wasn’t too much—it was a first-time thing. Now, it’s so much of fast food and microwave. Everything is really quick. So, it’s not really like, rap.” He isn’t alone; Hip Hop fans often take to social media to complain about the quick-moving cycle of music. Veteran artists also recognize the industry has shifted and have voiced concerns.

J.I.D & His “Weird Theory”

“People don’t really care about it as much,” J.I.D continued. “Even as it’s grown in popularity. It’s moving super fast and I don’t think people really care about—I think it’s more about being viral or being the first to get…I don’t know. I got a weird theory about it, though.” On the other side of things, artists now have to combat the reputation of only being seen as TikTok or social media stars. Before working with them, the industry hunts for entertainers with an established social media presence. However, internet visibility can also hinder a budding star. Not everyone can transition from social media personality, and the method of grabbing talent from online spaces has been widely criticized.

It will be interesting to see how Hip Hop evolves in the future. We’re celebrating 50 years of the genre in 2023, and generations of rappers are joining to discuss the culture’s ebbs and flows. Check out more from J.I.D’s conversation on the Throwing Fits podcast above.